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prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Zevachim 16
ZEVACHIM 16 (25 Sivan) - This Daf has been sponsored by Rav Uri Sondhelm (of
Har Nof, Yerushalayim) l'Iluy Nishmas his mother, Sarah bas Rav Tzvi
(a) We ask on the 'Tzad ha'Shaveh' of Zar from Ba'al-Mum and Tamei - which
are not permitted on a Bamas Yachid, whereas a Zar is.
(b) So we switch the 'Yochi'ach' from Tamei to Onan (which assumes that Onan
is permitted to sacrifice on a Bamas Yachid). We still need Ba'al-Mum to
counter a Chumra which Onan possesses which Zar does not - namely, that an
Onan is forbidden to eat Ma'aser Sheini, which a Zar is not.
(c) Based on the Pasuk 'u'min ha'Mikdash Lo Yeitzei", Rav Sama b'rei de'Rava
counters the Kashya 'Mah le'ha'Tzad ha'Shaveh she'Bahen she'Kein Lo Hutru
be'Bamah' - that perhaps an Onan is permitted to sacrifice on a Bamah ...
(d) ... because the Pasuk "u'min ha'Mikdash Lo Yeitzei", suggests that the
Isur of Onan applies exclusively to the Beis-ha'Mikdash, and does not extend
(a) Rav Mesharshaya learns Zar from a 'Kal va'Chomer' from Yoshev - who is
*permitted to eat Kodshim*, yet he invalidates the Avodah, 'Kal va'Chomer a
Zar, who is *not*.
(b) We counter the Pircha ...
1. ... 'Mah le'Yoshev she'Kein Pasul le'Eidus' - from confining the Limud to
a witness who is a Talmid-Chacham (who is permitted to testify whilst
(c) Assuming that we do ask from Shem Yoshev, then we will learn from a
'Mah-ha'Tzad from Yoshev and any one of the above (Onan, Tamei or
2. ... 'Mah le'Shem Yoshev, she'Kein Pasul le'Eidus' (other than 'Shem
Yoshev Lo Parich') - 'Shem Yoshev Lo Parich' (seeing as we are learning it
specifically from a Talmid-Chacham).
(d) We learn from the Pasuk "La'amod Lifnei Hashem Le'shareis" - that one
may not testify sitting.
(a) We learn from the Pasuk "u'min ha'Mikdash Lo Yeitzei, ve'Lo Yechalel" -
that an Onan Kohen Gadol may continue to perform the Avodah and does not
desecrate the Avodah - but an Onan Kohen Hedyot who continues to serve,
(b) Rebbi Elazar extrapolates it from Aharon's response to Moshe's query -
whether perhaps, the Chatas Rosh Chodesh had been burned because it had been
brought by Onenim, to which he replied "Hein Hikrivu ... ?" - by which he
meant - that it was it was not his sons, who were Hedyotos (who were
forbidden to eat Kodshim, who had sacrificed it), but himself (who, as a
Kohen Gadol, was permitted to do so).
(c) The reason that ...
1. ... Rebbi Elazar declines to learn like the first opinion ("u'min
ha'Mikdash Lo Yeitzei") is - because he interprets the Pasuk to mean (not
that the Kohen Gadol is permitted to continue performing the Avodah, but)
that he is forbidden to stop, a Chidush in its own right, from which cannot
therefore infer anything ('Ha Acher she'Lo Yatza, Chilel').
(d) And when Aharon said "Hein Hikrivu ... ", he meant - that it was because
they were Onenim, and therefore unable to eat the Chatas until nightfall
that it was able to become Tamei.
2. ... the first opinion declines to learn like Rebbi Elazar - because he
holds that the Chatas was burned because of Tum'ah that touched it, and not
because of Aninus.
(a) de'Bei Rebbi Yishmael learns Onan with the same 'Kal va'Chomer' from
Ba'al-Mum, as he initially learned Zar. He will answer to the Pircha ...
1. ... 'Mah le'Ba'al-Mum she'Kein Asah Bo Kereivin ke'Makrivin' - with 'Zar
(b) He cannot learn the warning of an Onan from "u'min ha'Mikdash Lo
Yeitzei" - because then he would learn Chilul from there, too.
2. ... 'Mah le'Zar, she'Kein Ein Lo Takanah' - with 'Ba'al-Mum Yochi'ach'
(assuming that it is no more than a passing blemish).
(c) He learns it from - "Hein Hikrivu", and in his opinion, the Korban was
burned because of Aninus.
(a) According to Rebbi Yishmael, if not for the 'Mah ha'Tzad', we would
interpret the dialogue between Moshe and Aharon like this: Moshe asked
Aharon whether his sons had not sinned by bringing the Chatas even though
they were Onenim, to which he replied that since he was the one to have
brought the Korbanos, and not them, the question was inconsequencial.
(b) We ask on the 'Mah ha'Tzad' - that (we cannot learn that Onan desecrates
the Avodah from Ba'al-Mum and Zar, since) they have no Heter from their
respective Isurim like an Onan does (in the form of the Kohen Gadol).
(a) We answer 'Tamei Yochi'ach'. And we counter the Pircha' ...
1. ... 'Mah le'Tamei, she'Kein Metamei" - with 'Hanach Yochichu'.
(b) We needed to come on to Tamei in spite of the fact that a Zar himself
has a Heter to bring on a Bamah - because that does not fall under the
category of 'Hutar mi'Chelalo', since Tum'ah was never forbidden by a Bamah
to begin with.
2. ... 'Mah le'ha'Tzad-ha'Shaveh she'Kein Lo Hutru mi'Chelalan Eitzel Kohen
Gadol be'Korban Yachid' with - 'Shem Tum'ah (by a Tzibur) Miha Ishtera'i'.
(c) Rav Mesharshaya learns Onan from 'Yoshev', as he initially learned Zar.
And he counters the Pircha ...
1. ... 'Mah le'Yoshev, she'Kein Pasul le'Eidus' - by a Talmid-Chacham
witness (as we explained earlier).
2. ... 'Mah le'Shem Yoshev she'Kein Pasul le'Eidus', (assuming that we do
accept this as a Pircha) - with 'Asya mi'Yoshev ve'Chada me'Hanach' (i.e.
Ba'al-Mum, Zar or Tamei).
(a) Rava qualifies the Din in our Mishnah 'Onan Pasul', by restricting it to
a Korban Yachid. And he learns this from Tum'ah - which has no Heter
regarding a Kohen Gadol by a Korban Yachid, yet it is permitted to a Kohen
Hedyot by a Korban Tzibur. In that case, Aninus, which does have a Heter
regarding a Kohen Gadol by a Korban Yachid, should certainly be permitted
even to a Kohen Hedyot by a Korban Tzibur.
(b) Rava assumes that Tum'ah is ...
1. ... forbidden to a Kohen Gadol by a Korban Yachid - since we only find
Tum'ah permitted by a Tzibur.
(c) And he assumes that Aninus is permitted to a Kohen Gadol even by a
Korban Yachid - because the Torah seems to give him a blanket Heter.
2. ... permitted even to a Kohen Hedyot by a Korban Tzibur - since the Torah
makes no distinctions.
(d) Rava bar Ahila'i asks three Kashyos on Rava - based on the fact that if
one changes just one of Rava's premises, one can can make 'Kal-va'Chomers
that work out to be the opposite of those that Rava made.
(a) For example, we might ...
1. ... restrict the Heter of Aninus by a Kohen Gadol to a Korban Tzibur,
from Tum'ah (negating Rava's third assumption) - because if a Kohen Hedyot,
who is permitted to bring a Korban be'Tzibur be'Tum'ah, yet a Kohen Gadol is
not permitted to bring a Korban Yachid, then there where a Kohen Hedyot Onan
is forbidden to bring a Korban Tzibur, a Kohen Gadol will certainly be
forbidden to bring a Korban Yachid.
(b) Rava bar Ahila'i concludes therefore - that each of the Torah's rulings
is absolute (leaving no room for a Safek and subsequently for a 'Kal
2. ... permit Tum'ah to a Kohen Gadol even by a Korban Yachid with a 'Kal
va'Chomer' from Aninus (negating Rava's second assumption) - because if a
Kohen Hedyot Onan, who is forbidden to bring even a Korban Tzibur ba'Aninus,
yet a Kohen Gadol Onan is permitted to bring even a Korban Yachid, then
where a Kohen Hedyot is permitted to bring a Korban Tzibur be'Tum'ah,
certainly a Kohen Gadol will be permitted to bring a Korban Yachid.
3. ... forbid a Kohen Hedyot even by Tum'ah be'Tzibur with a 'Kal-va'Chomer
from Aninus (negating Rava's first assumption) - because if a Kohen Gadol
Onan is permitted to bring a Korban Yachid, yet a Hedyot is forbiden to
bring even a Korban Tzibur, then Tum'ah, where a Kohen Gadol is not
permitted to bring a Korban Yachid, a Kohen Hedyot may certainly not bring
even a Korban Tzibur.
(c) When it therefore ...
1. ... permits Aninus by a Kohen Gadol - it incorporates a Korban Yachid as
well as a Korban Tzibur in the Heter.
(d) Rava's bar Ahila'i's conclusion differs from Rava - only in the case
where he qualifies our Mishnah (permitting a Kohen Hedyot Onan to bring a
Korban Tzibur), which he forbids.
2. ... forbids Aninus by a Kohen Hedyot - it incorporates a Korban Tzibur as
well as a Korban Yachid in the prohibition.
3. ... permits Tum'ah by a KorbanTzibur - it permits even a Kohen Hedyot.
4. ... forbids Tum'ah by a Korban Yachid - it forbids even a Kohen Gadol.