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Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Previous daf Zevachim 68
ZEVACHIM 66-68 - Dedicated to the leaders and participants in the Dafyomi
shiurim at the Young Israel of New Rochelle, by Andy & Nancy Neff
1) MAKING UP FOR IMPROPERLY OFFERED BIRDS
(a) If she does not remember what she gave the Kohen, and he
does not remember where he offered them, she must bring
four Olos Nedavah (two of each species, to fulfill her
vow), two Olos Chovah (one of each species - perhaps her
Chatas was Kosher, she must bring a matching Olah), and a
Chatas (of either species - this Tana holds that the Olah
does not fix the Chatas; whatever she brings for a
Chatas, she (brought or now) brings a matching Olas
2) "MELIKAH PESULAH"
(b) Ben Azai says, she brings (six Olos like above and) one
Chatas of each species (he holds that if the Olas Chovah
was offered before the Chatas, she must bring a matching
(c) R. Yehoshua: (She should have fulfilled her obligation
with four birds in all - because of the mistakes and
forgetting, she had to bring an extra seven or eight -)
this is like people say, a live ram has only one voice,
(parts of) a dead ram gives seven voices (two Shofaros,
two flutes, a tambourine, and strings for a lyre and
harp. This culminates the proof that tractate Kinim is
like R. Yehoshua.)
(d) Answer #2 (to Questions (2:d and 2:g, Daf 67B)): R.
Yehoshua says that an Olah becomes a Chatas with respect
to (inhibiting) Me'ilah, but one does not fulfill his
obligation with it!
(a) (Mishnah): If any Pasul (person) did Melikah, it is
Pasul, but it is Metaher the bird from (becoming a
Neveilah and having) Tum'as Beis ha'Beli'ah;
(b) In the following cases, Melikah or slaughter (even though
it is Pasul) is Metaher:
1. Melikah was done with the left hand, or at night;
Chulin was slaughtered in the Azarah, or Kodshim
(c) The following cases of Melikah are not Metaher (the bird
is Neveilah, it has Tum'as Beis ha'Beli'ah):
1. Melikah was done with a knife, on Chulin in the
Azarah, or on Kodshim outside;
2. The bird was a Tor and it was too young, or a Ben
Yonah and it was too old;
(d) The general rule is - any Pesul b'Kodesh (Tosfos - after
it was Mekudash in a Kli Shares; alternatively, if the
Pesul is Kosher for Kodshim in a different setting), it
is Metaher; if the Pesul was not b'Kodesh, it is not
3. Its wing was dry (and ready to fall off), its eye
was blind (Tosfos - gouged out), or its leg was cut
(e) (Gemara - Rav): If Melikah was done with the left hand or
at night, it is Metaher; if it was done by a Zar or with
a knife, it is not Metaher.
(f) Question: Presumably, (Melikah with) the left hand is
Metaher because it is (sometimes) Kosher for Avodah, i.e.
on Yom Kipur (the Kohen carries a spoon with Ketores) in
it, and (Melikah at) night is Metaher because Haktarah of
limbs and Chelev may be done at night;
1. Similarly, a Zar is Kosher for slaughter!
(g) Answer: Slaughter is not an Avodah.
(h) Question: But R. Zeira taught that if a Zar slaughtered
the Parah Adumah, it is Pasul;
1. Rav taught that this is because it says "Elazar"
(who was a Kohen) and "Chukah" (which shows that it
(i) Answer #1: Parah Adumah is different, it is Kodshei Bedek
ha'Bayis (but Kodshei Mizbe'ach do not require a Kohen).
(j) Objection: If (slaughter of) Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis (is
considered Avodah to) require a Kohen, all the more so
(k) Answer #2 (R. Shisha brei d'Rav Idi): Just like a Kohen
is needed to rule about Tzara'as, even though this is not
Avodah, the same applies to Parah Adumah.
(l) Question: We should say that since a Zar is Kosher for
Avodah on a Bamah, his Melikah is Metaher!
(m) Answer: We do not learn from Bamos.
(n) Question: We do learn from Bamos!
1. (Beraisa): If Yotzei (Eimurim that left the Mikdash)
were brought back and up the ramp, we do not take
them down (they are thrown on the Mizbe'ach),
because Yotzei is Kosher on a Bamah.
(o) Answer: That Tana relies on "Zos Toras ha'Olah" (to learn
from Bamos about Avodos not involving the blood).
(p) (R. Yochanan): Melikah done by a Zar is Metaher, but
Melikah done with a knife is not.
(q) Question (Mishnah): If *any* Pasul did Melikah, it is
Pasul (but it is Metaher.)
1. According to R. Yochanan, this comes to includes a
Zar - according to Rav what does it include?
(r) Answer: It includes Melikah with the left hand or at
(s) Question: The Mishnah teaches these explicitly!
(t) Answer: The Mishnah alludes to them, then teaches them