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Previous daf Yevamos 76
YEVAMOS 76, 77 - Dedicated by Eddie and Esther Turkel in prayer for
a Refu'ah Shelemah to Yitzchak ben Lanah. May the Talmud Torah
d'Rabim sponsored in his honor protect him and gain him a full
and speedy recovery.
1) WHICH PROBLEMS CAUSE STERILITY
(a) Objection (Rav Papi): This makes no sense! Seed may only
be cooked in its proper conduit (and he cannot have
2) THE PROHIBITION OF A PETZU'A DAKA
(b) (Rav Yehudah): If it was punctured and sealed - if when
he has an emission, the seal tears, he is sterile and
forbidden; if not, he is Kosher.
(c) (Rava): This cannot refer to a puncture below the crown -
there, even if cut, he is Kosher!
1. Rather, the puncture is in the crown itself.
(d) (Rav Mari Bar Mar): If the crown was punctured and sealed
- if when he has an emission, the seal tears, he is
sterile and forbidden; if not, he is Kosher.
(e) Question (Rava Brei d'Rabah): How do we cause him to have
an emission to check this?
(f) Answer #1 (Rav Yosef): We put warm barley bread by his
1. Objection (Abaye): Is everyone like Yakov Avinu, who
called Reuven "My first strength", because he never
had an emission before that?!
(g) Answer #2 (Abaye): We pass colored women's clothing in
front of him, and this causes him to have an emission.
(h) Objection (Rava): Is everyone like Barzilai ha'Giladi?!
1. (Rava): Rather, as Rav Yosef answered.
(i) (Beraisa): If it is punctured, he is forbidden, because
the seed drips out; if it is sealed, he is Kosher, since
he can have children.
1. This is a disqualification which can revert to
(j) Question: '*This*' - to exclude which case?
(k) Answer: To exclude a scab which developed over a bruise,
which is not a proper sealing.
(l) Question (Rav Idi Bar Avin): How do we seal a puncture?
(m) Answer (Abaye): We cut around the puncture with barley;
we rub the area with oil. We bring a big ant, have it
bite the area, and cut off its head.
1. Only barley may be used - but iron would cause a
bruise or inflammation.
(n) (Rabah Bar Rav Huna): One who urinates through 2 openings
2. This remedy will only help for a small puncture; by
a big one, the sealing will peel off.
(o) (Rava): The law is not as he said, nor as his father.
1. (Rav Huna): Women that rub their genitals together
are disqualified from Kehunah.
2. (Rava): Even R. Elazar, who says that extramarital
relations make a woman a Zonah, only said this by a
man; 2 women together is mere lewdness.
(a) (Mishnah): A Petzu'a Daka or Crus Shafchah is permitted
to a convert or freed slave; he is only forbidden to the
congregation (of Yisrael) - "He will not enter the
congregation of Hash-m".
(b) (Gemara) Question: A Petzu'a Daka Kohen - may he marry a
convert or freed slave?
1. Does he retain his sanctity, and he is forbidden;
(c) Answer (Rav Sheshes - Beraisa): A Petzu'a Daka Yisrael
may marry a Nesinah.
2. Or, he lost his sanctity, and he is permitted?
1. If he retains his sanctity - he would transgress "Do
not intermarry with them"!
(d) Objection (Rava): That prohibition is not dependent on
sanctity - it is because their children might serve
1. The prohibition only applies while they are Nochrim
- after conversion, the Torah permits them, only
Chachamim decreed against them.
(e) Rava retracted his objection (d).
2. Chachamim only decreed by people that can have
3. Question: If so, a Mamzer, that can have children,
should be forbidden!
i. (Mishnah): Mamzerim and Nesinim may intermarry!
4. Retraction (of statement 2): Rather, Chachamim only
decreed by people of Kosher lineage.
1. (Rava): "Do not intermarry with them" applies after
conversion - before this, marriage does not take
(f) Question (Rav Yosef): "Shlomo married the daughter of
Paro, King of Mitzrayim".
(g) Answer: He first converted her.
(h) Question: We did not accept converts in the days of David
(i) Answer: We did not accept, because we suspected that they
were only converting for wealth - Paro's daughter was
(j) Question: If she converted, she is a 1st generation
Mitzris, and is forbidden!
3) THE PROHIBITION OF AMONIM AND MOAVIM
1. Suggestion: Perhaps the Mitzrim perished, and other
nations settled in Mitzrayim (and Paro's daughter
was from them).
(k) Answer (Rav Papa): There is no question from Shlomo - he
did not marry her!
2. Rejection (Beraisa): Minyamin my colleague was a
Mitzri Rishon (1st generation Mitzri); he married a
Mitzris Rishonah, and planned to marry his son to a
Mitzris Shniyah (2nd generation Mitzris), so his
grandchildren would be permitted.
1. "The forbidden nations ... Shlomo clung to love (not
(l) Question: But it says, "He married her"!
(m) Answer: Because he loved her excessively, the verse calls
(n) Question (Ravina): The Mishnah teaches, 'A Petzu'a Daka
or Crus Shafchah is permitted to a convert or freed
slave' - implying, he is forbidden to a Nesinah (this
contradicts the Beraisa (c))!
(o) Counter-question (Rav Ashi): The end of the Mishnah says,
'He is only forbidden to the congregation (of Yisrael)' -
implying, he may marry a Nesinah!
1. Since the implications contradict each other, we
cannot infer how the Mishnah rules.
(a) (Mishnah): Amonim and Moavim are forever forbidden, but
females are permitted immediately;
(b) Mitzrim and Adomim are forbidden until 3 generations,
males and females; R. Shimon permits females immediately.
1. R. Shimon: This is a Kal v'Chomer - when the males
are forbidden forever, the females are permitted
immediately; when the males are only forbidden until
3 generations, all the more so females are permitted
(c) (Gemara) Question: What is the source that female
Amonites and Moavites are permitted?
2. Chachamim: If you received this law on tradition, we
accept; if not, we can challenge your Kal v'Chomer.
3. R. Shimon: I have a tradition.
(d) Answer (R. Yochanan): "Shaul asked: 'Who is this youth
(e) Avner: I do not know."
1. Objection: Shaul certainly knew who David was - "He
loved him greatly, he carried his vessels"!
(f) Why did Shaul inquire about David?
2. Answer: Shaul was asking who David's father was.
3. Objection: Shaul certainly knew who David's father
was - "The man was a sage, very well known ...".
i. (Rav): This is Yishai, who was appointed over
4. Answer: Rather, Shaul was asking if David comes from
Peretz or from Zerach.
i. If he comes from Peretz, he will be king, since
a king Poretz (breaks fences) to make a path;
ii. If he comes from Zerach, he is merely
(g) Answer: "Shaul clothed David in his garments, as his
measure"; but Shaul was "From his shoulder and above,
taller than the whole nation"!
(h) Doeg ha'Edomi: Before asking if he is fit for kingship,
ask if he is fit to marry into Yisrael!
1. Question: Why shouldn't he be?
(i) Avner: But we learned, an Amoni is forbidden, not an
Amonis; a Moavi, not a Moavis!
2. Answer: He descends from Rus the Moavis.
(j) Doeg: If so, you should say a Mamzer is forbidden, not a
(k) Avner: "Mamzer" - Mum Zar (a foreign blemish), which
applies equally to women.
(l) Doeg: If so, you should say a Mitzri is forbidden, not a
(m) Avner: The prohibition of Moabites is different, since
the Torah specified the reason - "Because they did not go
out to greet you with bread and water".
1. It is the way of men to go out to greet, not of
(n) Doeg: The men should have gone out to greet the men, and
the women to greet the women!
1. Avner was silent.
(o) "The king said, ask whose son is this youth".
(p) Question: Before, it says Na'ar (youth) - here, why does
it say ELeM (youth)?
(q) Answer: This is a hint - Shaul said, this law NisALMah
(is hidden) from you - go ask in the Beis Medrash.
1. He asked they said, an Amoni is forbidden, not an
Amonis; a Moavi, not a Moavis.