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by Rabbi Ephraim Becker
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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1) CUT OFF TOP OF THE LULAV - NIKTAM ROSHO
(a) (R. Huna) While if the top is cut off it is Pasul, it
they are slit it is not.
2) BENT LIKE A SICKLE
(b) Question: But the Beraisa invalidates slit (together
with bowing, thorny, bent like a sickle and hardened
[but allows nearly hardened]) leaves of the Lulav!?
(c) Answer (R. Papa): The Pesul is Hemnik, where the slit
in the top actually creates a 'V' or quill effect.
(a) (Rava) This Pesul refers to a bend forward, not back to
its spine (which is Kosher) the way it grows.
3) NIFRETZU AND NIFREDU
(b) R. Nachman considers bent to the side like bent
forward, others cite him saying it is like backward.
(c) (Rava) If all the leaves are to one side of the spine
it is blemished and Pasul.
(a) (R. Papa) Nifretzu is where, like a sweep broom, the
severed leaves are gathered and tied at their base to
the spine of the Lulav; while Nifredu is where the base
is still attached to the spine but the ends have fanned
out from the Lulav.
4) BINDING THE LEAVES TOGETHER
(b) Question (R. Papa): What is the Halachah if the center
leaves (the Tiyomes, or extension of the spine) split
from one another.
(c) Answer: R. Yehoshua b. Levi taught that if the Tiyomes
were removed the Lulav is Pasul, which, presumably,
would extend to our Nechlakah case.
(d) Not necessarily, since removal of the leaves creates
Chaser, a greater alteration than Nechlakah.
(e) Alternate rendition of R. Yehoshua b. Levi: Nechlakah
is like the removal of the Tiyomes and it is Pasul.
(a) R. Yehudah learns this from Kafus which implies that if
it were separated one must bind it.
5) DEFINING THE KAPOS TEMARIM
(a) Question (Ravina of R. Ashi): Perhaps it is the Charusa
(a Lulav after the hardening of its spine and leaves)?
6) TZINEI HAR HABARZEL
(b) Answer: It cannot be bound (Kafos) due to it hardness.
(c) Question: Perhaps it is the Ufsa (bark without leaves)?
(d) Answer: It must have a bindable quality, not fixed as
(e) Question: Perhaps it is the Kufra (not as thick as the
Charusa and still bindable)?
(f) Answer (Abaye): The pleasant Torah would not have us
use that which scratches the hands.
(g) Question (Rava Tosfa'ah of Ravina): Perhaps it is two
Machbedim (the fan shaped twig holding the clusters of
(h) Answer: The word Kafos is written as though singular.
(i) Question: Then take just one?
(j) Answer: That is called a Kaf (and Kafos refers to the
(a) (Abaye) This Lulav is Pasul if the lower leaf does not
reach the base of the leaf above it.
(b) This is supported by the Beraisa which invalidates the
Tzinei Har HaBarzel, which must refer to one which
Abaye would disqualify (or else it would contradict our
(c) Alternately, the above discussion was started with the
apparent contradiction, and Abaye's qualification is
7) THE SHIUR OF A LULAV IS THREE TEFACHIM TO SHAKE IT
(d) These two trees are located in Gei Ben Hinom near
Yerushalayim, at the entrance to Gehinom.
(a) (R. Yehudah citing Shmuel) The Shiur of the Hadas and
Aravah is three Tefachim and the Lulav must be four, to
extend a Tefach above the Hadasim and Aravos.
8) MISHNAH: THE PESULIM OF A HADAS
(b) (R. Parnach citing R. Yochanan) The *spine* of the
Lulav must extend that Tefach.
(c) Question: But the Mishnah only requires three Tefachim?
(d) Answer: The Mishnah means three Tefachim and that which
is needed to shake it, which is the Machlokes above.
(e) Question: The Beraisa requires the Lulav to be four
Tefachim (with the Hadas and Aravah being three), which
would seem to be with its leaves (like Shmuel)!?
(f) Answer: No, it means four Tefachim without the leaves.
1. In the above cited Beraisa, the Tana Kama requires
the Hadas to be three and R. Tarfon says that it
is an Amah of five Tefachim.
(g) Question: But Shmuel is here cited as holding that the
Hadas must be three, yet he is cited as holding like R.
Tarfon whose Shiur is three and three-fifths!?
2. Question (Rava): Who can find a leaf-covered Hadas
of three Tefachim, to say nothing of *five*!?
3. Answer (R. Dimi): R. Tarfon meant that the three
Tefachim are measured by dividing a six-Tefach
Amah by five parts, only adding a bit to the Shiur
of the Tana Kama.
(h) Answer: Shmuel was being approximate when he said
(i) Question: But we only attribute imprecision to the
statement when it is more stringent!?
(j) Answer (Ravin): R. Tarfon meant to be more lenient and
to use a five-Tefach Amah and divide it by six,
resulting in a two and one-half Tefach Hadas.
(k) Question: But Shmuel is still inconsistent!?
(l) Answer: This inconsistency can be attributed to his
imprecision, which is a Chumrah.
(a) The Pesulim include a Hadas which is stolen, dried out,
from an Asheirah or Ir HaNidachas, a clipped top,
fallen leaves or whose berries exceed its leaves.
9) DEFINING THE ANAF EITZ AVOS
(b) If the excess berries are removed it is Kosher, but
this repair may not be done on YomTov.
(a) A branch whose leaves cover it, the Hadas.
(b) Question: Perhaps it is the olive tree?
(c) Answer: It is not Avos, with the leaves laying upon one
(d) Question: Perhaps it is the Dulva?
(e) Answer: Its leaves to not cover the entire branch.
(f) Question: Perhaps it is the Hirdof?
(g) Answer (Abaye): The pleasant Torah would not have us
use that which scratches the hands.
(h) Answer (Rava): A poisonous plant is inconsistent with
'the love of Truth and Peace.'
(i) (Tana Kama) That which is woven (one leaf upon the
other) like a chain, that is the Hadas.
(j) (R. Eliezer b. Yakov) It is the tree whose branch and
fruit (or leaves) is identical, namely, the Hadas.
(a) It was taught that Avos demands that it be Meshulash.
(b) Question: What qualifies as Avos?
(c) Answer (R. Yehudah): Three leaves from one point.
(d) Answer (R. Kehana): Two from one point and one from a
point below resting on the other two also qualifies.
(e) Out of respect for his Rebbi, R. Acha would seek
Hadasim like R. Kehana said.
(f) (Mar b. Ameimar) My father called such a Hadas a Shoteh
(since it seemed to lack clear direction).