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Prepared by Rabbi P. Feldman
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Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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SHEVUOS 6-10 - Ari Kornfeld has generously sponsored the Dafyomi
publications for these Dafim for the benefit of Klal Yisrael.
1) ATONEMENT FOR OTHER SINS
(a) (Beraisa): One might have thought, this atones for
idolatry, Arayos, and murder.
2) FOR WHICH TUM'OS DOES IT ATONE?
(b) Question: What is the case of idolatry?
1. If he served intentionally - he is liable to die (of
course the goat does not atone for him)!
(c) Answer: We can say, he served intentionally without
warning (so Beis Din does not kill him);
2. If he served unintentionally - he is liable to bring
a sacrifice (of course the goat does not exempt him
1. We can say, he served unintentionally and never
realized his sin (so he is not yet liable to bring a
(d) Question: What is the case of Arayos?
1. If he sinned intentionally - he is liable to die; if
he sinned unintentionally - he must bring a
(e) Answer: We can say, he sinned intentionally without
warning, or unintentionally and never realized his sin.
(f) Question: What is the case of murder?
1. If he killed intentionally - he is liable to die; if
he killed unintentionally - he must go to a city of
refuge (of course the goat does not exempt him from
(g) Answer: We can say, he killed intentionally without
1. Or, he killed unintentionally and never realized it,
or in a way that is exempt from exile (e.g. he was
engaged in an upward motion).
(a) (Beraisa - R. Yehudah): One might have thought, this
atones for these three transgressions - "Mi'Tum'os", not
from all Tum'os;
1. Question: Which Tum'os are have a special law
(presumably, the verse refers to these)?
(b) Question: In what respect do these Tum'os have a special
2. Answer: Tum'ah of the Mikdash and Kodshim.
(c) Answer: The sacrifice for them is an Oleh v'Yored.
(d) Question: Idolatry has a special law, the sin-offering
for idolatry must be a female goat, one does not have the
option to bring a female lamb (we should say that the
inner goat atones for idolatry)!
(e) Answer (Rav Kahana): The inner goat atones for something
that has a special leniency, not a special stringency.
(f) Question: A woman who gave birth has a special leniency,
she brings an Oleh v'Yored!
(g) Answer (R. Hoshaya): "L'Chol Chatosom" - her sacrifice is
for Tum'ah, not for a sin.
1. Question: According to R. Shimon, who says that the
sacrifice is to atone in case she swore during labor
that she will never have relations with her husband
again, how can we answer?
(h) Question: A Metzora has a special leniency (he brings an
2. Answer: The question does not begin according to R.
Shimon, he says that "V'Chiper Al ha'Kodesh" teaches
that it atones for Tum'os of the Mikdash and
(i) Answer (R. Hoshaya): "L'Chol Chatosom" - his sacrifice is
for Tum'ah, not for a sin.
1. Question: According to Rav Shmuel bar Nachmani, who
says that Tzara'as comes for seven sins, how can we
(j) Question: A Nazir Tamei has a special leniency, he brings
pigeons or doves (in place of animals)!
2. Answer: The Tzara'as atoned for him, the sacrifice
is only to permit him to eat Kodshim.
(k) Answer (R. Hoshaya): "L'Chol Chatosom" - his sacrifice is
for Tum'ah, not for a sin.
1. According to R. Eliezer ha'Kapar, who says that a
Nazir is a sinner (for denying himself wine), how
can we answer?
(l) Question: Why doesn't R. Yehudah learn like R. Shimon?
2. Answer: He must hold like R. Shimon (who learns from
"V'Chiper Al ha'Kodesh").
(m) Answer: He uses "V'Chiper Al ha'Kodesh" to teach that the
blood is sprinkled in the Heichal the same way it is
sprinkled in the Kodesh ha'Kodoshim (once downwards,
seven times upwards).
1. R. Shimon learns this from "V'Chen Ya'aseh l'Ohel
(n) (Beraisa): Suggestion: Perhaps it atones for all
transgressions of Tum'os of Kodesh!
2. R. Yehudah says, if we only learned from that verse,
one might have thought that he slaughters another
bull and goat in order to sprinkle their blood in
3. R. Shimon says, the verse connotes that the
sprinkles from the same blood mentioned above.
1. Rejection "Umi'Pisheihem l'Chol Chatosom" (Chata'im
that resemble Pesha'im, i.e. there is no sacrifice
(o) Question: This refers to Chata'im of which he knew (of
the Tum'ah) at the beginning and (realized his sin) at
the end - one brings a sacrifice for this, surely the
goat does not exempt him from the sacrifice!
(p) Answer: The case is, he realized his sin just before
sunset of Erev Yom Kipur, there was no time to bring the
1. One might have thought the goat protects him from
punishment - the verse teaches, this is not so.
(q) (Beraisa): Question: How do we know that the inner goat
protects one who knew at the beginning but not at the
3) THE GOAT-OFFERING ONLY SUSPENDS PUNISHMENT
1. Question: The Tana already learned that it atones
for something a sacrifice is not brought for!
2. Answer: Having said that it atones for Chata'im that
resemble Pesha'im, i.e. there is no sacrifice for
them, the Tana thought to extend this further;
i. Just as one will never bring a sacrifice for
Peshai'im, also for such Chata'im, i.e. he did
not know at the beginning but he knew at the
3. But it would not atone for Chata'im which he knew at
the beginning but not at the end, for he brings a
sacrifice of them when he finds out.
4. Question: How could he think that the inner goat
atones when he did not know at the beginning but he
knew at the end - the outer goat and Yom Kipur atone
5. Answer: One might have thought just the contrary,
the inner goat atones when he only knew at the end,
the outer goat atones when he only knew at the
i. "Umi'Pisheihem l'Chol Chatosom" teaches that
the inner goat atones for Chata'im that can
come to a sacrifice.
(a) Suggestion: The inner goat should give a full atonement!
4) THE "SE'IR CHITZON"
(b) Answer: Had it said 'Me'Chatosom", that would be true;
1. But since it says "L'Chol Chatosom", this teaches
that a sin-offering will later be brought for them.
(c) Question: Since it does not fully atone, why does it
(d) Answer #1 (R. Zeira): If the person dies without finding
out, he is considered to have died without sin.
(e) Rejection (Rava): Death itself atones!
(f) Answer #2 (Rava): It protects him from punishment (until
he realizes his sin).
(a) (Mishnah): If he never knew of the Tum'ah (and entered
the Mikdash or ate Kodshim), and later was told that he
had was Tamei, the goat (whose blood is) offered outside
(the Heichal) and Yom Kipur itself atone for him...
(b) Suggestion: The Torah equates the inner and outer goats -
we should say that the inner goat also atones for what
the outer goat atones for!
1. This makes a difference if they were unable to bring
the outer goat.
(c) Rejection: "V'Chiper...Achas" - the inner goat makes one
atonement, not two.
(d) Suggestion: We should say that the outer goat also atones
for what the inner goat atones for!
1. This makes a difference for Chata'im of Tum'ah after
the inner goat was offered and before the outer
(e) Rejection: "Achas b'Shanah" - the atonement of the inner
goat only comes once a year.