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by Rabbi Ephraim Becker
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld
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Previous dafPesachim 114
1) TEACHINGS ABOUT EATING
(a) Eat humbly in your humble home, do not accustom your heart to
eating luxuriously; Eat less and add to your home.
2) MISHNAH: THE ORDER OF KIDUSH (THE FIRST CUP)
(b) [Ula taught the parable] The one who eats choice foods must hide in
his loft; while the one who eats vegetables may do so in public.
(a) [Beis Shamai] Yom then Yayin.
3) THE BEREISA EXPLAINING THE POSITIONS OF OUR MISHNAH
(b) [Beis Hillel] Yayin then Yom.
(a) Beis Shamai explain their order:
4) MISHNAH: THE SEDER CONTINUES
1. The Yom causes the wine.
(b) Beis Hillel explain their order:
2. The Yom has already been sanctified before the wine arrives.
1. The wine causes (allows) the Kidush to be said.
(c) The law, continues the Bereisa, is like Beis Hillel.
2. [Davar Acher] Wine is more Tadir, and thus comes first.
(d) Question: Why do Beis Hillel need a "Davar Acher?"
(e) Answer: To address the fact that Beis Shamai gave two factors.
(f) Question: But we *know* that the Halachah is like Beis Hillel!?
1. There was a Bas Kol which declared this.
(g) Answer #1: This Bereisa is speaking before the Bas Kol.
2. So why, here, does the Bereisa teach that the Halachah is like
(h) Answer #2: It is the position of R. Yehoshua who rejects Bas Kol.
(a) He dips a vegetable after Kidush, even Chazeres.
(b) He is brought Matzah, Maror, Charoses and two cooked dishes.
(c) Tana Kama holds that Charoses is not a Mitzvah, R. Elazar b. Tzadok
holds that it is.
(d) In the times of the Mikdash, he would also be brought the Korban
5) DIPPING VEGETABLES AND NEEDING KAVANAH
(a) [Resh Lakish]: Our Mishnah implies that Mitzvos require Kavanah!
6) THE TWO COOKED DISHES
1. He must eat Chazeres again (as Maror) even if he ate it after
(b) Question: The two eatings are only to prompt the children to ask!
2. Surely this is because he did not intend the Mitzvah of Maror
with that earlier eating (over which he made a Ha'adamah), and
cannot rely on the physical performance of the act alone.
(c) Answer: Then the Tana would have required a *different* vegetable
(not Chazeres) for that earlier dipping.
(d) Question: Then he would not eat *anything* for the first dipping if
he didn't have a different vegetable; and further, the Bereisa
teaches that Maror does not require Kavanah.
(e) Answer: It is a Machlokes between the Tana'im, as per R. Yosi in
the Bereisa who says that the second dipping is a Mitzvah.
(f) Question: Perhaps R. Yosi requires the second dipping to prompt the
(g) Answer: He called it a *Mitzvah* because it requires Kavanah!
(a) Question: What are the two cooked dishes?
7) THE FIRST VEGETABLE
(b) Answer #1 [R. Huna]: Even Silka and Orez.
1. Rava would especially use these two foods, even though R. Huna
only meant them as examples of the simplest dishes.
(c) Answer #2 [Chizkiya]: Even be an egg cooked on fish.
2. This was due to his fondness for the teachings of R. Huna.
3. [R. Ashi] We see that R. Huna disagrees with the teaching of
R. Yochanan b. Nuri that Orez is a grain.
(d) Answer #3 [R. Yosef]: Two types of cooked meats (reminders of the
Pesach and Chagigah).
(e) Answer #4 [Ravina]: Even meat and its gravy.
(a) Question: What Berachah should he make over the first vegetable if
he must use the Maror vegetable for that, as well.
(b) Answer [R. Huna]: On the first eating Borei Peri Ha'adamah and on
the second Al Achilas Maror.