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Nidah 65

1) Rav gave a woman four nights in twelve months.
What does this mean?


(a) Why could those nights not all have been when she was a Ketanah?

(b)Why can they not all have been whilst she was a Na'arah?

(c) And why can we not say that he gave her two days whilst she was a Ketanah, and two after she became a Na'arah?

(d) So what do we think that the case must have been, and why does this pose a Kashya on Rav, who says that a Bogeres only gets one night?

(a) How does the Gemara resolve the above problem, by finding a case which does not incorporate Bagrus?

(b) How did Minyamin Saksana'ah misconstrue Rav's Din?

(c) What happened to him before he managed to put his theory into practice?

(d) What did Shmuel comment on that?

4) What do we learn from the Pasuk in Amos "Gam Ani Nasati Lachem Nikyon Shanim be'Chol Areichem, ve'Choser Lechem be'Chol Mekomoseichem."

5) How does Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel describe the Onah Sheleimah mentioned by Beis Hillel in the Beraisa?

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6) If someone wants to be Metaher his wine or his olive-press, he is first of all obligated to wash the planks (used as presses), the palm-branches (brooms), and the actual tub of the press; the ropes made of palm-creepers and canvas, he must first dry.

(a) What must he first do with the ropes made of straw or of bulrushes, and for how long?
Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says from harvest to harvest.
(b) How does he differ from the Tana Kama?

(c) How does Rebbi Yossi permit them within twelve months?

Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel quotes Rebbi Yossi even more leniently.
(d) What does he say?
7) In which other area of Halachah, apart from Tum'ah, is leaving it for twelve months, effective?

8) Two opinions are quoted in the name of Rebbi Yochanan: one, that an Onah consists of a day or a night; and the other, that it is half a day and half a night.

(a) How does the Gemara reconcile the two seemingly contradictory statements?

(b) How does this pose a Kashya on Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel, whom we quoted above in question 5)?

(c) What is the Gemara's first answer?

In the second answer, the Gemara explains Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel's 'Layla ve'Chatzi Yom' in connection with Kesubah.
(d) What does this mean say?
9) Rav and Shmuel are strict with regard to the Din in our Mishnah. They only allow a woman the Be'ilas Mitzvah, irrespective of whether she has seen or not; immediately after that, they must separate.
(a) How can Rav and Shmuel argue with Rebbi, who gave that woman four nights in twelve months?

(b) Should a Ba'al Nefesh be Machmir and separate before he has finished his Be'ilas Mitzvah?

(a) What does Rebbi Meir say about a Ketanah who continues to see after four nights, or a Na'arah after the first night?

(b) How come that Rebbi Meir's rulings pertain to the opinion of Beis Shamai?

(c) What compromise does Rebbi Meir make between Beis Hillel and Beis Shamai when she sees afresh on days when, according to Beis Shamai she is Temei'ah and according to Beis Hillel, Tehorah?

(d) What three distinctions does Rebbi Meir between Dam Nidus and Dam Besulim?

11) What do the Rabbanan of Rebbi Meir hold in this regard?

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