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Menachos 98

MENACHOS 96-99 - Two weeks of study material have been dedicated by Mrs. Estanne Abraham Fawer to honor the fourth Yahrzeit of her father, Reb Mordechai ben Eliezer Zvi (Weiner), who passed away 18 Teves 5760. May the merit of supporting and advancing Talmud study during the week of his Yahrzeit serve as an Iluy for his Neshamah.


(a) How does Rebbi Yochanan define an Amah Beinonis?

(b) How does Rebbi Yossi bar Avin prove this from the fact that Rebbi Meir in our Mishnah, gives the measurements of the Shulchan as six by twelve Tefachim?

(c) What can we infer from the fact that the Tana refers to an Amah of six Tefachim as 'Amah Beinonis'?

(a) The Mishnah in Keilim refers to two 'Amos' on the north and south eastern corners of Shushan ha'Birah.
What was 'Shushan ha'Birah'?

(b) What did these two 'Amos' comprise?

(c) What was their function? Why were they necessary?

(d) How did they achieve their purpose?

(e) Why was it necessary to have *two* such 'Amos'?

(a) Rav Chisda and Rav Yitzchak bar Avdimi argue about the reason for 'Shushan ha'Birah'. One of them explains that it was in order to remind them from where they came.
What was the point of that?

(b) What does the other one say?

(c) Rebbi Yanai learns the concept of Eimas Malchus from Moshe's words to Paroh. How does he derive it from the Pasuk in Bo "Ve'yardu Kol Avadecha Eileh Eilai Ve'hishtachavu Li ... "?

(d) Rebbi Yochanan learns it from Eliyahu.
What unprecedented honor did he afford the wicked Achav?

(a) Rav Chisda and Rav Yitzchak bar Avdimi argue over the Pasuk in Yechezkel "Ve'aleihu li'Terufah".
What is the Pasuk referring to?

(b) Chizkiyah and bar Kapara already indulged in the same Machlokes. According to Chizkiyah, the leaves of those trees will cure the dumb ('Lehatir Peh Ilmin').
What does bar Kapara say?

(c) What is the source for both opinions?

(a) The Torah writes in Emor "Ve'lakachta So'les Ve'afisa Osam Sh'teim-Esrei Chalos Ve'samta Osam Shetayim Ma'arachos, Sheish ha'Ma'araches." What would we have thought, had the Pasuk ...
  1. ... omitted "Sheish ha'Ma'araches"?
  2. ... omitted "Sh'teim-Esrei"?
  3. ... written "Ve'lakachta So'les Ve'afisa Osam Sh'teim-Esrei Chalos Ve'samta Osam Ma'arachos al ha'Shulchan"?
(b) So if the Kohanim were to place two rows, one of eight loaves, the other of four, they would not be Yotzei.
What does Rebbi say in a case where they placed two rows of seven?

(c) What is the problem with this, based on the Pasuk "Ve'nasata al ha'Ma'araches Levonah Zakah"?

(d) How did Rav Chisda, speaking to Rav Hamnuna (or vice-versa) solve it?

(a) The Beraisa states that all the Keilim in the Beis-Hamikdash were placed lengthwise along the length of the Bayis, except for one.
Which one?

(b) And what does the Tana mean when, after adding that its length was placed across the width (from north to south), continues 've'Kach Hayah Munach, ve'Kach Hayu Badav Munachim'?

(c) We even cite a Beraisa to prove that this was the way the Aron stood. How does Rebbi Yehudah there prove that the poles must have been arranged along the width of the Aron and not along its length?

(d) And what does he learn from the Pasuk in Beha'aloscha "Ve'nas'u ha'Kehasim, Nos'ei ha'Mikdash"?

(a) What does the Beraisa learn from the Pasuk in Melachim ...
  1. ... "Va'ya'arichu ha'Badim ... Va'yera'u"?
  2. ... "Lo Yera'u Ha'chutzah"?
(b) Which 'Paroches' is the Pasuk referring to?

(c) Besides the fact that the Pasuk per se, is speaking about the first Beis-Hamikdash, why could it not refer to the two curtains that divided between the Heichal and the D'vir)?

(d) And what does the Tana learn from the Pasuk in Shir Hashirim "Tz'ror ha'Mor Dodi Li, bein Shadai Yalin"?

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(a) The Beraisa discusses the ten tables that Shlomoh Hamelech made.
When the Navi in Melachim refers to "five on the right and five on the left", why can he not mean five on the right of the entrance (of the Heichal) and five on the left?

(b) So what does he mean? How were these tables then arranged?

(c) How do we reconcile the Beraisa, which places them on the inner half of the Bayis with the Beraisa which places them in the middle third?

(a) According to Rebbi, the tables were placed from east to west.
What does Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Shimon say?

(b) Rebbi learns his opinion with a 'Binyan Av' from the Menorah.
What does he learn from the Pasuk in Emor (in connection with the Menorah) "Ya'aroch Oso Aharon ... Lifnei Hashem"?

(c) From where does Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Shimon learn that the tables were arranged from north to south?

(d) On what grounds does Rebbi learn from the Menorah rather than from the Aron?

(a) On what grounds does Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Shimon disagree with Rebbi?
Why does he not also learn Chutz from Chutz?

(b) How does he then explain the Pasuk "Ya'aroch Oso Aharon ... Lifnei Hashem"?

(c) What does he then learn from the Pasuk in Beha'aloscha "el Mul P'nei ha'Menorah Ya'iru Shiv'as ha'Neiros"?

(d) What principle does Rebbi Nasan (or Rebbi Yochanan) learn from here?

(e) What are its ramifications?

(a) We query Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Shimon on four scores. What would be the problem fitting the ten tables from north to south?

(b) What practical problem remains, even assuming that they could be squeezed in?

(c) What third problem exists, that we have already mentioned before?

(a) What problem remains that is difficult according to Rebbi as well?

(b) Why will the fact that not all the tables will be entirely in the inner half of the Heichal, not bother Rebbi?

(c) How do we basically answer all the Kashyos on both opinions?

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