REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Menachos 71
MENACHOS 71 - Dedicated in honor of the 80th Birthday of Jean Turkel
Rafalowicz by the Turkel/Linzer Family. Mazal Tov on reaching this
milestone. May you be Zocheh to continue to see Nachas from your children,
grandchildren, and great-grandchildren until 120 years!
(a) Rebbi Elazar asked Rebbi Yashiyah who lived in his generation not to sit
down until he explained to him from where we know that the Omer permits all
crops that have taken root.
Why do we add the words 'who lived in his
(b) What does "Aviv" mean?
(c) Based on the Pasuk in Vayikra "Aviv Kaluy ba'Eish", what was Rebbi
Yashiyah's initial reaction to Rebbi Elazar's request?
(a) How do we refute Rebbi Yashiyah's suggestion? If "Aviv" does not
preclude corn that took root from being used for the Omer, what does it
(b) Shmuel makes the same inference from "me'Hachel Chermesh ba'Kamah"
('La'av mi'Chelal de'Ika de'La'av bar Chermesh').
How do we refute that?
If "Chermesh" does not preclude corn that took root, then what does it
(c) And Rebbi Yitzchak makes the same inference from "Kamah" ('La'av
mi'Chelal de'Ika de'La'av bar Kamah'). How do we refute that? If "Kamah"
does not corn that took root, then what does it preclude?
(a) Rava finally learns the Din of Hashrashah from the Pasuk in Mishpatim
(in connection with the Sh'tei ha'Lechem) "ve'Chag ha'Katzir Bikurei
Ma'asecha Asher Tizra", implying from the time of planting.
What does this
have to do with the Omer?
(b) Rav Papa asked Rava why the Omer does not then permit the crops from the
time of planting.
What was Rava's reply?
(c) He referred to Rav Papa as 'Sudni', perhaps based on the Pasuk in
Tehilim "Sod Hashem li'Yere'av".
What other reason might there be for
(a) We have already discussed our Mishnah, which permits harvesting a Sadeh
Beis Hashalachin in the valley, provided one does not make a hay-stack out
What did the men of Yericho used to do?
(b) What was the Chachamim's reaction?
(c) What does the Tana permit one to do before the Omer?
(a) How does Rebbi Yehudah qualify the Tana's previous statement?
(b) Rebbi Shimon is more lenient than Rebbi Yehudah.
What does he say?
(c) Our Mishnah also permits cutting the crops before the Omer because of
(d) On what condition does the Tana permit that?
- ... saplings. This might be due to the Isur of Kil'ayim.
What other reason might there be for that?
- ... u'Mipnei Beis ha'Aveil u'Mipnei Bitul Beis-Hamedrash'.
What does this mean?
(a) The Tana permits bringing the Omer from sheaves.
What do we learn from
"me'Hachel Chermesh ba'Kamah"? Why is that?
(b) What does he say about bringing the Omer from ...
- ... dry produce?
- ... produce that was cut by day?
(a) How do the Pesukim in Emor "u'Ketzartem es Ketzirah Va'haveisem es
Omer") and "Reishis Ketzirchem el ha'Kohen" appear to contradict each other?
(b) How does Rebbi Binyamin in a Beraisa reconcile them?
(c) On what grounds do we query this D'rashah? If not by location, how else
might we categorize the Heter to cut the corn before the Omer?
(d) We refute this on the basis of Rebbi Yochanan's D'rashah.
Rebbi Yochanan Darshen on the previous Amud that puts paid to that
(a) We learned in a Beraisa that the men of Yericho did six things.
According to Rebbi Meir, what is the significance of ...
1. ... the first group, who grafted date-palms all day (of Erev Pesach),
were Korchin al Shema and harvested their crops before the Omer'?
(b) What does the Tana mean by 'Korchin al Sh'ma'?
2. ... the second group, who made haystacks from the crops before the Omer,
permitted the branches of carob and Shikmah (a sort of fig-tree)-trees of
Hekdesh that grew after the declaration of Hekdesh (even though they grew
from Hekdesh) and who, in years of drought, made breaches in their gardens
and orchards to feed the poor the fruit that fell from the trees that
dropped on Shabbos and Yom-tov' (even though they were Muktzah or because
one might climb the tree to and pick more)?
(a) On what grounds does Rebbi Yehudah object to Rebbi Meir's version of the
distinction between the two groups?
(b) So how does Rebbi Yehudah distinguish between the first three things and
the second three?
(c) However, he combines harvesting and making haystacks in the first group.
What does he replace it with in the second?
(a) Based on this Beraisa, why must the author of the Reisha of our Mishnah
be Rebbi Yedudah?
Answers to questions
(b) What discrepancy are we now faced with between his ruling in our Mishnah
and his ruling in the Beraisa?
(c) We first counter this by pointing out a discrepancy in the Beraisa
What is that?
(d) How do we kill two birds with one stone, and answer both questions with
one fell swoop?
(a) We learned in the Mishnah in Pe'ah that a Nachal, a Shelulis, a public
and private road and a public and private path divide a field in two with
regard to Pe'ah.
What is the definition of ...
(b) What is the difference between ...
- ... 'a Nachal'?
- ... 'a Shelulis'?
(c) A private path divides between two fields, provided it is used in winter
as well as in summer.
- ... a private road and a public one?
- ... a road (Derech) and a path (Sh'vil)?
What is the significance of the fact that it is used
in winter too?
(a) Finally, the Tana inserts a Sadeh Bur, a Sadeh Nir, Zera Acher and,
according to Rebbi Meir, Kotzer la'Shachas to the list. 'Zera Acher' means a
field between two wheat-fields for example, that is growing lentils.
is a 'Sadeh Bur' and a 'Sadeh Nir'?
(b) According to the Chachamim, 'Kotzer la'Shachas' only divides the field
if one subsequently plowed it. Why is that?
(c) What does Rebbi Meir then hold?
(d) What does Rabah bar bar Chanah Amar Rebbi Yochanan then mean when he
equates Rebbi Meir with Rebbi Shimon in our Mishnah?
(a) When Rabah repeated Rebbi Yochanan's statement, Rav Acha bar Huna
queried it from a Beraisa (in connection with Pe'ah) which discusses 'Achlah
Chagav, Karsemuhah Nemalim Shavraso ha'Ru'ach'.
Why does the Tana use the
expression 'Achlah' in connection with the locusts, and 'Karsemuhah' in
connection with the ants?
(b) How does the Tana conclude? Who does 'ha'Kol' refer to?
(a) How does Rav Acha bar Huna therefore establish the Mishnah in Pe'ah and
the Beraisa respectively, to explain why Rebbi Meir concedes to the Rabbanan
in the latter? With which Tana in our Mishnah does this appear to conform?
(b) Why is that? What problem does Rav Acha bar Huna have with Rebbi
(c) Bearing in mind that Rebbi Meir is speaking about cutting the corn for
human consumption, what problem does that create in equating him with Rebbi
Yehudah in our Mishnah (as we then suggest)? Why can Rebbi Yehudah not be
speaking about cutting the corn for human consumption?
(d) How do we know that there are only two opinions in the Mishnah, and that
Rebbi Yehudah comes to explain the Tana Kama and not to argue with him?
(a) When Rav Dimi arrived from Eretz Yisrael, he established Rebbi Meir like
Rebbi Akiva his Rebbe, who argues with the Chachamim in a Mishnah in Pe'ah
with regard to 'ha'Menamer Sadeihu Ve'shiyer bo Kelachim Lachim'.
does that mean?
(b) Rabbi Akiva holds 'Ha'menamer Sadeh ... Pe'ah le'Chol Echad ve'Echad'.
Why is that? What would he say if the corn had fully grown?
(c) What do the Chachamim say?
(a) What distinction does Rav Yehudah Amar Shmuel draw between 'Menamer
li'Kelayos' and 'Menamer le'Otzar'?
Answers to questions
(b) Ravin Amar Rebbi Yochanan disagrees.
What does he say?
(c) How does this clash with Rebbi Meir?
(d) So how do we conclude? With which Tana does Rebbi Meir concur?