REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Menachos 20
MENACHOS 20 (30 Tishrei) - dedicated by Reb Mordechai Rabin
(London/Yerushalayim) l'Iluy Nishmas his father, ha'Gaon Rav Gedalya
Rabinowitz of Manchester, England (and in his later years, Bnei Brak,
Israel). Hearing a Shiur of ha'Gaon Rav Gedalya's was an unforgettable
experience, as his many Talmidim, both Bnei Yeshiva and Ba'alei Batim, can
(a) What Kashya does Rav Ivya ask on Rav (who, in the realm of Kodshim,
requires repetition for something to be Me'akev) from Melach?
(b) What does Rebbi Yehudah in a Beraisa, comment on the Pasuk in Korach
"B'ris Melach Olam Hi"?
(c) What does Rebbi Shimon learn from the fact that the Torah writes "B'ris"
by salt, just like it writes in Pinchas "B'ris Kehunas Olam"?
(d) What is the basis of the Machlokes between Rebbi Yehudah and Rebbi
(e) How does Rav Yosef answer Rav Ivya's Kashya? What does our Tana say?
(a) Where did the Melichah take place?
(b) How did we interpret 'Lo Yatzak Kasher' in our Mishnah?
(c) Then why can we not interpret 'Lo Malach Kasher' in the same way (to
answer Rav Ivya's Kashya on Rav)?
(d) What is the alternative answer to Rav Ivya's Kashya, based on the Pasuk
"B'ris Melach Olam" itself?
(a) What problem does the Pasuk in Vayikra "ve'Chol Korban Minchascha
ba'Melach Timlach" create with the current Sugya?
(b) To answer the Kashya, we cite a Beraisa, which explains how this Pasuk
What does the Tana learn from ...
(c) From where does the Beraisa learn that the Levonah which comes with the
Minchah requires salting too?
- ... "Minchascha"?
- ... the continuation of the Pasuk "ve'Lo Sashbis Melach ... *me'al Minchasecha*"?
- ... "Korbancha"?
(d) And from which Pasuk does the Tana incorporate in the Melichah, Levonah
that comes by itself as well as well as the Levonah in the Bazichin, the
Ketores, the Minchas Kohanim, the Minchas Kohen Mashi'ach and the Minchas
Nesachim? What do all of these have in common?
(a) What is the Tana's source for salting ...
(b) Having listed Eimurei Chatas and Eimurei Asham, what did the Tana have
in mind when he added 'Eimurei Kodshei Kodshim'?
- ... the Eimurin of all Korbanos and the Eivarim of the Olah before burning them?
- ... the Olas ha'Of?
(c) How do we know that Zivchei Shalmei Tzibur are Kodshei Kodshim?
(a) Having included in the salting, whatever requires wood to burn it, from
"ve'Chol Korban Minchascha be'Melach Timloch", why do we need the S'vara
that Levonah came together with the Minchah, in order to incorporate it,
too? On what grounds might we have otherwise precluded it?
(b) From where do we know that this is not the case? What will we do with
the principle 'Ein bi'Che'lal ... ')?
(c) What else is answered with the 'K'lal u'P'rat u'K'lal'?
(d) What do we now learn from the 'P'rat' (Minchah)?
(a) We suggest that perhaps we should learn from the 'P'rat' whatever has an
accompanying Chovah (i.e. Levonah).
How would that include the Dam in the
(b) We suggest that in fact, the Nesachim accompany the Eimurin (and not the
Why is that?
(c) How do we counter that argument? Why might the Nesachim go better with
the Dam than with the Eimurin?
(d) How do we finally reject the suggestion that Dam requires salting
because of the Nesachim, just like the Minchah requires salting because of
the Levonah? What specification does the latter have that the former does
(a) We ask why we do not learn from the P'rat the Levonah in the Bazichin
Answers to questions
How would we have to Darshen 'Mah ha'P'rat' to arrive at that
(b) Our answer is based on the D'rashah "me'al Minchasecha", 've'Lo me'al
What can we extrapolate from there? What does 'mi'Chelal
de'Hanach Kulhu Asu be'Chad Tzad' mean?
(a) The Tana just Darshened "me'al Minchasecha", 've'Lo me'al Damcha'.
What alternative D'rashah do we suggest?
(b) And we cite six similarities between Eivarim and Minchah. Four of them
are 'Acherim Ba'in Chovah Lah, Ishim, ba'Chutz and Nosar'.
(c) What are the remaining two?
(d) Why is there no Nosar, Tum'ah or Me'ilah by Dam?
(a) We conclude that in spite of the two similarities between Dam and
Minchah, the similarities between Eivarim and Minchah outweigh them. One of
those two similarities is 'Matir'.
What is the other?
(b) When do the Eimurin become Pasul?
(c) How do we know that?
(a) The Beraisa precluded Eitzim and Dam from Melichah, even though they are
considered a Korban.
Who is the Tana who considers Eitzim a Korban?
(b) What does Rebbi in a Beraisa learn from the Pasuk "Nefesh ki Sakriv
(c) Where else do we find wood referred to as a Korban?
(d) What is the minimum Shiur that someone who donates a Korban Eitzim must
(a) According to Rebbi, what does a Korban Eitzim (which he considers to be
a Korban Minchah) require, besides salt?
Answers to questions
(b) Rava adds that it also requires Kemitzah.
What does Rav Papa add to
(c) The question then arises how the Beraisa can preclude a Korban Eitzim
What do we answer?
(d) Neither does "Minchah" come to preclude Dam, seeing as we ultimately
learn Dam from "me'al Minchasecha".
Then what does "Minchah" ('Kol
she'Acherim Ba'in Lahem Chovah') come to preclude?