REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Menachos 7
MENACHOS 6-7 - these Dafim have been dedicated anonymously l'Iluy Nishmas
Tzirel Nechamah bas Tuvya Yehudah by her family.
(a) According to Rav Amram, the Tana'im (and Rav in the second Lashon) might
even hold 'K'lei Shareis Mekadshin Afilu mi'Da'as'.
What does he then mean
when he establishes the case where the Kometz was returned to a K'li that
was heaped over the brim?
(b) Why can we not accept this answer?
(c) On what grounds do we also object to the answer that the K'li was not
heaped over the brim, but to the brim?
(d) So how do we finally establish Rav Amram?
(a) Rebbi Yirmiyah asked Rebbi Zeira why Rav Amram did not establish the
case when whoever performed the Pasul Kemitzah, replaced it in a K'li on the
How would that solve the problem?
(b) What did Rebbi Yirmiyah extrapolate from the fact that he did not answer
(c) Rebbi Zeira replied that he had touched on the She'eilah that Avimi had
already asked Rav Rav Chisda (which we will cite shortly).
do we raise to the mere fact that he quoted Avimi as having asked Rav
(a) From where do we know that Rav Chisda was Avimi's Talmid, and not
What did Rav Chisda reveal concerning his relationship with Avimi?
(b) The problematic Sugya (that Rav Chisda kept on forgetting) was that of
'Shum ha'Yesomim' in Erchin.
If one Tana gives the time of assessment as
thirty days, what does the other Tana say?
(c) How did Avimi explain it?
(d) Seeing as Avimi was indeed Rav Chisda's Rebbe, how come that Avimi asked
Rav Chisda how one takes Kemitzah?
(a) Then why did he not ask Rav Chisda to come to him?
(b) On the way, he met Rav Nachman.
What was Avimi's response when, in
reply to his question how one takes Kemitzah, Rav Nachman pointed to a K'li
lying on the ground?
(c) How did Rav Nachman's modify his ruling?
(a) Avimi asked that if that was so, then every Kemitzah would require three
Kohanim, two to hold the K'li containing the Minchah and the K'li into which
the Kohen would place the Kemitzah respectively, and one to perform the
Why could one Kohen not hold the first two Keilim?
(b) What did Rav Nachman reply?
(c) The Mishnah later states 'Kol ha'Kometz, ve'Nosen bi'Cheli, ha'Molich
ve'ha'Maktir Davar Le'echol ... '.
What did Rav Nachman reply, when Avimi
asked him why the Tana omitted 'ha'Magbihah'?
(a) When they asked Rav Sheishes whether the Kohen may perform the Kemitzah
from a K'li that is lying on the floor, he cited a Beraisa. The Tana there
describes how every Shabbos, eight Kohanim would enter the Heichal.
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were they going to do?
(b) Why were eight Kohanim necessary?
(c) How did Rav Sheishes resolve the She'eilah from there?
(d) What is the connection between the Siluk Bazichin and the Kemitzah of
(e) How did Rav Sheishes counter the Kashya that maybe the Tana is speaking
about Avodos and not Kohanim (like we explained with regard to the previous
(a) According to Rava, it is obvious that the Kohen may perform Kemitzah
from a K'li which is lying on the floor, and likewise, he may sanctify the
Minchah in such a K'li.
If he learns the first ruling from the Siluk
Bazichin, like Rav Nachman, from where does he learn the second ruling?
(b) He is not at first certain however, about being Mekadesh the Kometz in
such a K'li. On the one hand, maybe it is Kodesh just like the Kidush of the
What would be his source to say that it is not?
(c) What is Rava's conclusion?
(d) The four main Avodos of the Minchah correspond to the four main Avodos
of the Zevach.
If Kemitzah corresponds to Shechitah, and Kidush Kometz to
the Kabalas ha'Dam, which Avodah of a Zevach corresponds to ...
- ... Holachas Kometz?
- ... Haktaras Kometz?
(a) Rav Nachman invalidates a Kometz which the Kohen halved and placed into
From where does he learn it?
(b) What does Rava say?
(c) Seeing as Rava just learned the Din of Kometz from the Dam of the
Zevach, why does he disagree with Rav Nachman, who learns this Din from the
Dam of the Zevach too (as we just explained?
(a) The original source of this ruling is where the Kohen was Mekadesh less
than the Shiur Haza'ah of the Mei Parah in two Keilim.
Will it help to
then pour the contents of one of the Keilim into the other, to make up the
(b) From where do we know that Dam does not become Kadosh in halves?
(c) Why might we not learn Kabalas ha'Dam from it?
(d) If, on the other hand, we learn it from the Pasuk in Chukas "Ve'taval
ba'Mayim", on what basis will the Din extend to Kabalas ha'Dam too?
(e) What did Rebbi Zerika Amar Rebbi Elazar conclude?
(a) Rava informs us that this Halachah is already mentioned in a Beraisa.
What does the Tana there learn from the Pasuk in Vayikra (in connection with
the Par Kohen Mashi'ach) ...
(b) And what does the Tana mean when he also Darshens from the Pasuk there
"min ha'Dam" 'min ha'Dam she'be'Inyan'? What does this preclude?
- ... "Ve'taval"?
- ... "ba'Dam"?
(c) This bears out a statement by Rebbi Elazar.
What did Rebbi Elazar say?
(a) Ravin bar Rav Ada cites ... Rav Amram, who asks on Rebbi Elazar from a
Beraisa (in connection with the Kohen Gadol sprinkling the Dam of the
How does Rav Amram explain 'Hayah Mazeh, Ve'nitzah
Haza'ah mi'Yado; Im ad she'Lo Hizah, Ta'un Kibus' to pose the Kashya?
(b) And how does he then explain the Seifa 'mi'she'Hizah, Eino Ta'un Kibus
(c) How did Rava therefore interpret 'ad she'Lo Hizah', and 'mi'she'Hizah',
to reconcile Rebbi Elazar with the Beraisa?
(d) And what does Abaye infer from the Mishnah in Parah 'Gamar mi'Lehazos,
Mekane'ach Yado be'Gufah shel Parah' that will pose a Kashya on Rebbi
(a) How does Rava answer the Kashya (by changing the inference)?
(b) Where was ...
(c) In whose presence was the body of the Parah Adumah burned?
- ... the Parah burned?
- ... the blood of the Parah sprinkled towards the entrance of the Ohel Mo'ed?
(d) What problem does this present on our previous answer, obligating the
Kohen to wipe his finger between each Haza'ah?
(a) How did Abaye (who asked the initial Kashya) answer this Kashya?
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(b) How does this explain the fact that Ezra refers to the bowls as 'Kipurei