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prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Menachos 95
(a) The She'eilah whether the Lechem ha'Panim became Pasul when Yisrael
traveled or not is resolved by a Machlokes between Rebbi Yochanan and Rebbi
Yehoshua ben Levi. The ...
1. ... first opinion learns from the Pasuk "Ka'asher Yachanu Kein Yisa'u" -
that just as, at the time of encampment, leaving the Azarah rendered the
loaves Pasul, so too, did breaking camp.
(b) The latter opinion explains "Ka'asher Yachanu Kein Yisa'u" to mean -
that just as at the time of encampment, the loaves did not become Pasul
unless they were moved from the Azarah, so too, when traveling, they did not
become Pasul unless they were moved from the Shulchan.
2. ... second opinion learns from the Pasuk "ve'Lechem ha'Tamid Alav
Yih'yeh" - that the loaves remained Kasher, even whilst traveling.
(c) The problem remains however - how the first opinion explains the Pasuk
"ve'Lechem ha'Tamid Alav Yih'yeh".
(a) To solve the problem, when Rav Dimi arrived from Eretz Yisrael, he
qualified the Machlokes. The disputants agree, he says - that as long as the
loaves remained on the Shulchan, they did not become Pasul.
(b) The first opinion now learns as before only with regard to where the
loaves were removed from the Shulchan (and based on "ve'Lechem ha'Tamid Alav
Yih'yeh", he concedes that as long as the loaves were on the Shulchan, they
never became Pasul). The second opinion now learns from the Pasuk there
"Ve'nasa Ohel Mo'ed" - that even when they traveled, the Ohel Mo'ed retained
its status, in which case the loaves did not become Pasul, even if they were
removed from the Shulchan, as long as they remained within Machaneh Leviyah.
(c) And he explains "Ka'asher Yachanu Kein Yisa'u" - simply as instructions
regarding the order in which the various Degalim (flags) broke camp.
(d) The second opinion learns this from the Pasuk - "Machaneh ha'Levi'im
(a) The Beraisa, discussing various aspects of Halachah when Yisrael broke
camp, says that ...
1. ... Kodshim - became Pasul be'Yotzei, and ...
(b) The catalyst that sparks this off is - the rolling up of the Paroches.
2. ... Zavin and Metzora'in - had to remain within their boundaries (the
former outside Machaneh Leviyah, the latter behind Machaneh Dan).
(c) According to Rav Dimi, this Tana holds that the Machaneh whilst
traveling - retains its status.
(a) We attempt to reconcile this with the second opinion (that does not
render the Lechem ha'Panim Pasul be'Yotzei) - by precluding the Lechem
ha'Panim from the 'Kodshim' mentioned in the Beraisa.
(b) We reject this suggestion however - because 'Mah Nafshach', if Machaneh
Yisrael retained its status whilst traveling, then why did Kodshim become
Pasul? And if it did not, then why did the Lechem ha'Panim not?
(c) So when Ravin arrived from Eretz Yisrael, quoting Mar, he reinterpreted
the two statements of Rebbi Yochanan and Rebbi Yehoshua. Both Amora'im agree
that Machaneh Yisrael does not retain its status whilst traveling.
(d) And he establishes ...
1. ... the first opinion ('Eino Nifsal") - when the loaves were still on the
Shulchan, and ...
2. ... the second opinion ('Nifsal'), when they had been removed.
(a) Abaye proves from the fact that the Beraisa ascribes the P'sul Kodshim
(when they traveled) to 'Yotzei' (exclusively) - that once the Pillar of
Fire moved in the night, they traveled immediately, without waiting for
(b) ... because otherwise, there would be times when Kodshim would be Pasul
through Linah, and not through Yotzei.
(c) Abaye needs a Beraisa to teach us this, despite the Pasuk "Laleches
Yomam va'Laylah" - which could just as well be speaking only in cases where
they began to travel by day ...
(d) ... seeing as the Torah puts "Yomam" first.
(a) We ask on this Beraisa however, from another Beraisa, where the Tana
rules that once the Paroches has been rolled up - Zavin and Metzora'in are
permitted to enter the Machaneh.
(b) Rav Ashi establishes the latter Beraisa like Rebbi Eliezer, who learns
from the Pasuk "Vi'yeshalchu min ha'Machaneh Kol Tzaru'a, ve'Chol Zav
ve'Chol Tamei la'Nafesh" - that wherever a Tamei Meis is obligated to leave
the Machaneh Shechinah, a Metzora is obligated to leave Machaneh Yisrael;
and conversely, where the former is not obligated to leave, the latter is
not obligated either.
(c) Consequently, he rules - that if Zavin and Metzora'in pushed their way
into the Azarah in the case of a Pesach that was brought be'Tum'ah (i.e.
because most of the Tzibur were Tamei), they (the Zavin and Metzora'in) are
(d) That ruling will extend to our case (where the Paroches was rolled up
and they were ready to travel), because - since there was no Machaneh
Shechinah, Te'me'ei Meisim (who are permitted to enter the Machaneh Leviyah)
were not subject to an Isur of entering the Mishkan be'Tum'ah, and
consequently, Zavin and Metzora'in were not subject to one either.
(a) Our Mishnah discusses the Halachic similarities between the Sh'tei
ha'Lechem and the Lechem ha'Panim. Both of them are kneaded and shaped
outside the Azarah - but baked inside.
(b) Rebbi Yehudah is more stringent than the Tana Kama. He requires the
kneading to be performed inside the Azarah, too.
(c) Whereas Rebbi Shimon is more lenient - permitting even the baking to be
performed anywhere in 'Beis Pagi' (i.e. anywhere in Yerushalayim).
(d) The Tana also compares them - in that they both override Shabbos.
(a) The problem with the fact that on the one hand, the kneading and the
shaping of the Lechem ha'Panim may be performed outside the Azarah, whereas
on the other, the baking must take place inside is - that the first
statement seems to hold that Midas Yavesh does not sanctify even what is fit
to be placed inside it, whilst the second statement holds that it does.
(b) When Rava attributed the Kashya to a particularly sharp man, he was
referring to Rav Sheishes.
(c) We reject Rava's statement however, by resolving the discrepancy with
ease. This we do by differentiating between the Isaron (which is not
Mekadesh), and the oven (which is).
(d) So what Rav Sheishes really asked was from the fact that the baking must
be performed inside the Azarah on the one hand, and that they do not
override Shabbos on the other - creating the problem that the obligation to
bake the Sh'nei ha'Lechem and the Lechem ha'Panim on Erev Shabbos, will
automatically cause them to become Pasul be'Linah on Shabbos morning.
(a) Rav Ashi attempts to answer the Kashya - by interpreting 'bi'Fenim' as
(outside the Azarah, but) in a location where the Kohanim who are 'Zerizin'
(alert) are situated ...
(b) ... so that they can supervise the baking, to ensure that the Matzos do
not become Chametz.
(c) But we consider Rav Ashi's suggestion a joke - because if the Kohanim
are needed to supervise the baking, why should they not also be obligated to
supervise the kneading and the shaping?
(a) Rebbi Aba bar Kahana say about Rebbi Yehudah and Rebbi Shimon, who argue
over whether the Sh'tei ha'Lechem and the Lechem ha'Panim need to be
prepared in the Azarah (Rebbi Yehudah) or not (Rebbi Shimon), derive their
respective opinions from the same Pasuk.
(b) Either way, David was criticizing Achimelech for baking the Lechem
ha'Panim when he did. According to ...
1. ... Rebbi Yehudah, in whose opinion he found him baking the loaves on
Friday - David asked him why he was baking them 'Derech Chol', since, seeing
as the Tanur sanctified the loaves, they would become Pasul be'Linah by
tomorrow, in which case, their baking would override Shabbos (which is when
he ought to have baked them). Whereas ...
(c) We refute this explanation however - because, seeing as the Pasuk writes
there "Va'yitein Lo ha'Kohen Kodesh ... Lechem ha'Panim ha'Musarim mi'Lifnei
Hashem" (referring specifically to after the loaves had been removed from
the Shulchan). In that case, under no circumstances, can David have arrived
on the day that the loaves were being baked.
2. ... Rebbi Shimon, according to whom he found Achimelech baking the loaves
on Shabbos - asked him why he did not bake them yesterday ('Derech Chol'),
since he surely did not think that the Tanur sanctified the loaves, in which
case their baking would not override Shabbos.
(d) When David said ...
1. ... ''ve'Hu Derech Chol'' - he must have been referring to the fact that
the loaves had been removed from the Shulchan, in which case they were no
longer subject to Me'ilah.
2. ... "Af ki ha'Yom Yekadesh bi'Cheli", he meant - that he (Achimelech)
would even have been permitted to hand him loaves that had only just been
placed on the Shulchan (and which were still subject to Me'ilah), because a
Bulmus (a dangerous illness affecting the eyes, caused by starvation) had
(a) The basis of the Machlokes between Rebbi Yehudah and Rebbi Shimon is -
the tradition they had received from their Rebbes as to whether the Tanur
sanctifies what is fit for it (Rebbi Yehudah) or not (Rebbi Shimon).
(b) And the proof for this lies in the Lashon used by Rebbi Shimon -
'Le'olam Hevi Ragil Lomar ... ', indicating that his argument with Rebbi
Yehudah is not a matter of how to Darshen Pesukim, but the wording of their