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MENACHOS 39 (19 Cheshvan) - Dedicated l'Iluy Nishmas Chaim Mordechai ben
Harav Yisrael Azriel (Feldman) of Milwaukee, by the members of the Feldman
1) REMNANTS OF "TZITZIS" (cont.)
(a) (Rabah): The Torah requires making the first knot
(closest to the end of the strings; some explain, closest
to the garment);
2) THE WINDINGS AND KNOTS
1. If this was only mid'Rabanan, we would not need a
verse to permit (putting Techeiles on) a linen
garment - the strings could be inserted without
tying them, one does not transgress Kilayim for
merely inserting wool through a linen garment (and
wearing it), since this is not a connection!
(b) (Rabah bar Rav Ada): If a string snapped from its end
(where it was attached to the garment), it is Pasul.
2. Rather, the Torah requires making a knot, one would
transgress if the Mitzvah did not override the Lav.
(c) Question (Rava - Beraisa): (There is a Shi'ur to the
length of Tzitzis when making them, but) remnants and
cut-off Tzitzis of any size are Kesherim.
1. Question: What does it mean 'remnants and cut-off
(d) Answer (to both questions - Rav Nachman): No, the Beraisa
teaches one matter, remnants of cut-off Tzitzis of any
size are Kesherim.
2. Suggestion: Remnants is when something remains,
'cut-off' is when nothing remains.
(e) Question: If so, it should have said 'cut-off Tzitzis of
any size are Kesherim' - why did it mention Shirei
(f) Answer: This teaches that a Shi'ur (a minimal required
size) must remain, enough to make a bow.
(g) (Rabah citing Rav): The string wrapped around the others
counts towards the required number of strings.
(h) Rav Yosef: Shmuel said that, not Rav!
(i) (Rabah bar bar Chanah): The string wrapped around the
others counts towards the required number of strings.
(a) (Rava citing Shmuel): If the Gedil (windings) take up
more space than the Pesil (where the strings lie
straight), it is Kosher.
(b) Rav Yosef: Rav said that, not Shmuel!
(c) Version #1 - (Rav Huna bar Yehudah citing Rav): If the
windings take up more space than the Pesil, it is Kosher.
(d) Version #2 - R. Chiya brei d'Rav Noson - (Rav Huna citing
Rav): If the windings take up more space than the Pesil,
it is Kosher;
1. Even if there is only one Chulyah (set of windings),
it is Kosher.
(e) Question: How big should the Chulyah be?
2. The ideal proportion is one third windings and two
(f) Answer (Beraisa - Rebbi): It must be at least three
(g) (Beraisa): On should not have less than seven (Chulyos on
each corner; some explain, windings in each Chulyah),
corresponding to the Reki'yim (firmament between levels
1. One should not have more than 13, corresponding to
the seven Reki'yim and the spaces between them.
(h) (Beraisa): One should begin (the first Chulyah) with
Lavan, for it says "Ha'Kanaf" - strings similar to the
1. One should end (the last Chulyah) with Lavan, for we
ascend in Kedushah, we do not descend (and since the
Torah said that we should start with Lavan, it is
considered more Kadosh.)
(i) A man was wearing a garment that was entirely Techeiles;
Gedil was attached, but no Pesil.
3) WHICH MATERIALS EXEMPT WHICH GARMENTS
1. Rav: The garment is beautiful, but not the Tzitzis;
(j) Question: What do they argue about?
2. Rabah bar bar Chanah: The garment is beautiful, and
also the Tzitzis.
(k) Answer: The Torah calls Tzitzis "Gedilim", elsewhere it
1. Rabah bar bar Chanah expounds, they must be Gedil
(wound) or Pesil (straight);
2. Rav say that we always require Pesil - Gedilim
teaches about the number of strings:
i. 'Gedil' connotes two, Gedilim connotes four -
we must make Gedilim and (attach them to the
corner and double them over) and make the Pesil
from the Gedilim (wrap them with one of the
eight ends themselves; alternatively, the Pesil
must be after the Gedilim.)
(a) (Shmuel): Woolen (Lavan) strings exempt (i.e. fulfill the
Mitzvah for) a linen garment.
(b) Question: Do linen strings exempt a woolen garment?
1. Wool can be used for Lavan, since it can be used for
Techeiles (which must always be wool), but we have
no source to use linen in a wool garment;
(c) Answer: We learn from Rachbah (that they do).
2. Or, perhaps "Lo Silbash Sha'atnez Tzemer u'Fishtim
Yachdav Gedilim Ta'aseh Lach" permits linen strings
in a woolen garment and wool strings in a linen
1. (Rachbah): Wool strings exempt a linen garment,
linen strings exempt a woolen garment;
(d) Rachbah argues with Rav Nachman.
2. Wool and linen strings exempt all garments, even
silk, Klach (waste silk) or Serikin (carded flax);
1. (Rav Nachman): Silk is exempt from Tzitzis.
(e) Question (Rava - Beraisa): One must put Tzitzis on
garments of silk, Klach and Serikin.
(f) Answer: That is mid'Rabanan, mid'Oraisa they are exempt.
(g) Question (end of the Beraisa): Wool and linen strings
exempt all of these.
1. We understand this if the Mitzvah applies
mid'Oraisa, therefore, Kilayim is permitted;
(h) Answer: It means, wool *or* linen strings exempt all of
these (but wool and linen may not be put on the same
2. But if the Mitzvah applies only mid'Rabanan, how can
this override Kilayim mid'Oraisa?!
(i) Support (end of the Beraisa): (Strings of) each of these
materials exempts its own kind, but not other materials.
1. We understand this if the Mitzvah is mid'Rabanan -
Chachamim enacted that they are liable, and they
enacted that the same species may be used for
(j) Rejection: The Torah also allows the material itself, as
2. But if it is mid'Oraisa, the Torah requires strings
of wool or linen!
(k) Contradiction (Rava): It says "Ha'Kanaf" - strings
similar to the corner;
1. It also says "Tzemer u'Fishtim"!
(l) Resolution: Wool or linen exempts any material; any other
material only exempts a garment of that material.
(m) Rav Nachman holds like Tana d'vei R. Yishmael.
1. (Beraisa - Tana d'vei R. Yishmael): The Torah
discusses garments without specifying the material
(e.g. in the Parshah of Tzitzis), regarding other
garments it specifies (wool and linen, e.g.
regarding Tzara'as, or Kilayim);
(n) (Abaye): The following Tana d'vei R. Yishmael argues with
the previous Tana d'vei R. Yishmael!
2. Just as the latter refers to wool and linen, also
1. (Beraisa - Tana d'vei R. Yishmael) Suggestion:
"Beged" refers only to a garment of (sheep's) wool
or linen (Rashi - only they receive Tzara'as; Tosfos
- only they are Mekabel Tum'as Sheretz).
2. Rejection: "O (b')Beged" - this includes garments of
camel's, rabbit's and goat's wool, silk, Klach or
Serikin (and all other materials).