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1) A DOCUMENT TO DEFLECT PROPERTY
(a) The document came in front of Rav Nachman; he tore it up.
2) WHAT PROFITS DOES THE HUSBAND EAT?
1. Rav Anan came before Mar Ukva. 'See - Nachman the
farmer tears up people's documents!'
(b) Question (Rava): Why did you tear it up? Because a person
would not abandon himself and give his money to others?
That applies to others - but a person does give to his
2. Mar Ukva: 'Tell me the whole story.' Rav Anan told
3. Mar Ukva: You speak of a document to deflect! Shmuel
said that he would tear up such a document.
(c) Answer (Rav Nachman): Even so, a person takes precedence
over his daughter.
(d) Question (Beraisa - R. Shimon Ben Gamliel): One who wants
to deflect property from her husband, writes a document
of appeasement to others;
(e) Chachamim say, the recipient can keep the property and
laugh at her, unless she wrote 'From today until when I
1. If this is not written, the document is valid!
(f) Answer (R. Zeira): If the document gives all her
property, it is invalid, even if this was not written; if
it gives part of her property, this clause must be
(g) Question: If the receiver does not get the property, the
husband should get it!
(h) Answer (Abaye): It is considered as property unknown to
the husband; this is as R. Shimon.
(a) (Mishnah): If a wife inherited money, the husband buys
land with it and eats the fruits; the same applies if she
inherited fruit detached from the ground;
(b) If she inherited fruit attached to the ground - R. Meir
says, we evaluate how much the fruit adds to the value of
the land; with this amount, the husband buys land and
eats the fruits; Chachamim say, attached fruit is his,
detached fruit is hers, and he buys land with it and eats
(c) R. Shimon says, where the husband is more privileged at
the start of the marriage, he is less privileged at the
end of the marriage; where he is less privileged at the
start, he is more privileged at the end;
1. Attached fruit, at the start of the marriage, he
gets it; at the end of the marriage, she gets it;
detached fruit, at the start it is hers, at the end,
it is his.
(d) (Gemara): Clearly, it is better to invest the money in
land than in houses; in houses, rather than date trees;
in date trees, rather than other trees; in other trees,
rather than vines.
(e) A forest of trees (that do not bear considerable fruit,
but are cut for lumber) and a pond of fish - some say
that these are considered as fruit (and the wood and fish
belong to the husband); others say, they are as principle
(and the husband buys land with them and eats the fruits,
but the land is his wife's).
1. The rule is - things which grow back are fruit;
things which do not grow back are principle.
(f) (R. Zeira): A thief (convicted of stealing pays twice the
value of what he stole. If he) stole the child of a Melug
animal - the extra payment goes to the wife.
3) HONOR OF HER FATHER'S HOUSE
(g) Question: This is neither as Chachamim nor as Chananyah!
1. (Beraisa): The child of a Melug animal belongs to
the husband; the child of a Melug slave belongs to
(h) Answer: R. Zeira's law can be according to both opinions.
2. Chananyah Ben Achi Yoshiyah says, Chazal made the
child of a Melug slave as the child of a Melug
1. It was only enacted that the husband eat fruits (of
principle); but not fruits of fruits (such as the
extra payment for the child of the Melug animal).
(i) We understand Chananyah - he is not concerned for death
(of the mother animal or slave, so the children are as
fruits that grow back).
(j) Question: According to Chachamim - if they are concerned
for death, even the child of an animal should be
considered principle; if they are not concerned for
death, even the child of a slave should be considered
(k) Answer: Really, they are concerned for death; however, an
animal, even if it dies, there is still the hide - the
principle is not entirely consumed.
(l) (Rav Huna): The law is as Chananyah.
(m) (Rava): Chananyah admits, if she is divorced, she may pay
the value of the children slaves and keep them, because
this is the honor of her father's house.
(n) (Rava): If she brought in a goat for milk, a sheep for
shearings, a hen for eggs, a date tree for fruit, the
husband consumes these until the principle is finished.
(o) (Rav Nachman): If she brought in a cloak, he may wear it
until it wears out, since this is considered as fruit.
1. This is as Chachamim in the following Beraisa.
(p) (Mishnah): R. Shimon says, where the husband is more
2. (Beraisa): Salt and sand are considered fruit; R.
Meir says, a reserve of sulphur or alum is
considered principle; Chachamim say, as fruit.
(q) Question: The previous Tana (Chachamim) also says this!
(r) Answer (Rava): They argue by attached fruit when she
leaves (Chachamim say, it is his; R. Shimon says, it is
(a) (Mishnah): If she inherited old slaves, they are sold, he
buys land with the money and eats the fruits;
4) THE HUSBAND'S EXPENDITURES ON HIS WIFE'S PROPERTY
(b) R. Shimon Ben Gamliel says, they are not sold because
they are the honor of her father's house.
(c) If she inherited old olive trees and vines, they are
sold, he buys land with the money and eats the fruits;
(d) R. Yehudah says, they are not sold because they are the
honor of her father's house.
(e) (Gemara - Rav Kahana): They argue when the trees are in
her field; but if they are in another person's field, all
agree that they are sold, because the principle will be
(f) Objection (Rav Yosef): But slaves are like trees in
another's field (if they die, there is no remnant), and
Tana'im argue in our Mishnah!
(g) Correction (Rav Kahana): They argue when the trees are in
another's field; but if they are in her field, all agree
that they are not sold, because of the honor of her
(a) (Mishnah): A husband that spent money to upkeep his
wife's property - whether he spent much and ate little,
or spent a little and ate much, no compensation is made;
(b) If he spent and did not eat, he swears how much he spent
and receives this.
(c) (Gemara) Question: How much is considered (eating) a
(d) Answer #1 (R. Asi): Even 1 dried fig, if eaten honorably.