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Previous daf Chulin 110
1) AN UDDER THAT WAS COOKED
(a) Question (Beraisa): If an udder was cooked with its milk
inside, it is permitted;
2) SHARP PEOPLE OF PUMBADISA
1. That is only b'Diavad (why would Rav Nachman
intentionally do so?)!
(b) Answer: Really, it is even l'Chatchilah; since the Seifa
discusses (and forbids, even b'Diavad) a stomach that was
cooked with the milk inside, the Reisha also says 'was
(c) R. Elazar: Did anyone teach Rav that an udder (that was
cooked without tearing it) is forbidden?
(d) Version #1 - Rav Kahana - Rav Yitzchak bar Avodimi: I did
not teach that to him at all! Rather, he saw that people
in Tatalfush cooked meat with milk, so he decreed this
(e) Version #2 - R. Yosi bar Aba - Rav Yitzchak bar Avodimi:
I taught him that an udder of a nursing cow (that was
cooked without tearing it) is forbidden; the Mishnah
discusses an udder of a cow that is not nursing;
1. R. Chiya taught Rav that an udder (that was cooked
without tearing it) is forbidden - he expected Rav
to realize that applies only to a nursing cow;
(f) Rav Papi hosted Ravin and Rav Yitzchak bar Yosef. He
served a dish with udders; Rav Yitzchak ate, Ravin would
2. Rav thought that it applies to all udders.
1. Abaye: Ravin should have eaten! Rav Papi's
father-in-law, R. Yitzchak Nafcha, is very careful
in his deeds - if Rav Papi served it, surely he
relied on what his father-in-law taught him.
(g) In Sura, people did not eat udder; in Pumbadisa, they
would eat it.
(a) Rami bar Tamri was from Pumbadisa; he came to Sura on
Erev Yom Kipur, and saw everyone discarding udders. He
gathered them and ate them.
1. Rav Chisda: Why did you do so?
2. Rami bar Tamri: I come from Rav Yehudah's area,
where we eat udder.
3. Rav Chisda: But a person must observe the
stringencies of where he comes from and where he is
4. Rami: I ate them oustide the Techum (the area
surrounding the city, it is considered an extension
of the city).
5. Rav Chisda: What fuel did you use to cook them?
6. Rami: I used grape skins.
7. Rav Chisda: Perhaps they were from Nochrim (and are
forbidden like wine poured to idolatry)!
8. Rami: They were over 12 months old (dry grape skins
are not forbidden).
9. Rav Chisda: Perhaps they were stolen!
10. Rami: The owners despaired from them (so they were
Hefker) - they were moldy and growing prickly hairs.
11. Rav Chisda: Why aren't you wearing Tefilin?
12. Rami: I have a stomach sickness - Rav Yehudah
exempts such a person.
13. Rav Chisda: Why don't you have Tzitzis on your
14. Rami: It is borrowed - Rav Yehudah exempts a
borrowed garment for 30 days.
(b) A man was being tied to be lashed for not honoring his
3) COOKING LIVER
1. Rami: Release him - a Beraisa teaches, Beis Din does
not punish for a Mitzvas Ase if its reward is stated
in the Torah.
2. Rav Chisda: You are very sharp!
3. Rami: There are people in Pumbadisa, Rav Yehudah's
area, sharper than myself.
(a) Abaye sent Rav Safra to ask (in Eretz Yisrael) if (R. Tam
- unsalted) liver may be cooked (in a pot).
(b) Rav Zerika: I cooked liver for R. Ami, and he ate it.
(c) Abaye: I knew that the liver itself is permitted - I
wanted to know if it forbids what it is cooked with.
(d) Rav Safra: You knew from a Mishnah that the liver itself
is permitted - the same Mishnah forbids what it is cooked
1. (Mishnah): Liver forbids what it is cooked with, but
it itself remains permitted, because it emits
(blood), but does not absorb.
(e) Abaye: Perhaps only a forbidden liver (e.g. of a
Tereifah) forbids other food because it emits forbidden
fat, but a permitted liver does not forbid (on account of
blood), nor does it become forbidden.