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Previous daf Chulin 103
CHULIN 103 (14 Iyar) - this Daf has been dedicated by Harav Yosef Pearlman
of London, England, l'Iluy Nishmas his father, ha'Rabbani Reb Rephael
David ben Yosef Yitzchak Pearlman, who passed away on Pesach Sheni 5758.
1) OTHER "ISURIM" THAT TAKE EFFECT ON "CHELEV"
(a) (R. Chiya bar Aba, citing R. Yochanan): If one ate Chelev
of a living Tereifah Behemah he is Chayav (lashes) twice;
(b) (R. Ami (and R. Avahu), citing R. Yochanan): He is Chayav
(c) Question: What do they argue about?
(d) Answer #1: The case is, the animal became Tereifah during
birth (or before);
1. R. Ami holds l'Evarim Omedes, so all three Isurim
(Chelev, Ever Min ha'Chai, and Tereifah) take effect
simultaneously (at birth);
(e) Answer #2: All hold Lav l'Evarim Omedes; they argue
whether or not the Isur Ever is Chal on the Isurim of
Chelev and Tereifah:
2. R. Chiya bar Aba holds Lav l'Evarim Omedes, so only
Chelev and Tereifah take effect at birth;
i. When the Chelev is later removed, the Isur Ever
does not take effect, since it is already
1. R. Ami says that it does, R. Chiya bar Aba says it
(f) Answer #3: All hold l'Evarim Omedes; the case is, it
became Tereifah after birth;
1. They argue whether Isur Tereifah is Chal on Isur
Ever Min ha'Chai.
2. R. Ami says that it is, just like it is Chal on Isur
i. The Torah teaches that the Isurim of Neveilah
and Tereifah are Chal on Chelev (even though it
is already forbidden).
3. R. Chiya bar Aba disagrees - they are Chal on
Chelev, for Chelev has a leniency - the Chelev of a
Chayah is permitted;
2) "EVER MIN HA'CHAI" THAT WAS DIVIDED
i. Ever Min ha'Chai is never permitted, so Isur
Tereifah is not Chal on it.
(a) Version #1 (Rav Dimi) Question (Reish Lakish): If an Ever
Min ha'Chai was cut, and then a person ate it, is he
3) FOOD THAT WAS REGURGITATED
(b) Answer (R. Yochanan): No.
(c) Question (Reish Lakish): If he put it whole in his mouth,
and then divided it (he did not swallow it whole), what
is the law?
(d) Answer (R. Yochanan): He is liable.
(e) Version #2 (Ravin): If Ever Min ha'Chai was cut, and then
a person ate it, he is exempt;
(f) If he put it whole in his mouth, and then divided it, R.
Yochanan is Mechayev, Reish Lakish exempts.
1. R. Yochanan is Mechayev, because he enjoyed
swallowing k'Zayis (the Shi'ur to be Chayav);
(g) Question: According to Reish Lakish, how is a person ever
liable (surely, he chews before swallowing!)?
2. Reish Lakish exempts - to be liable, a k'Zayis must
enter his stomach together.
(h) Answer (Rav Kahana): A small bone (of the upper joint of
the leg) can be swallowed whole.
(i) (R. Elazar): Even if he divided it before putting it in
his mouth, he is liable;
1. Even though it was not connected, we do not consider
it as if he only ate half.
(j) Version #1 (Reish Lakish): When one must eat a k'Zayis to
be liable, food stuck between the teeth is not included;
(k) (R. Yochanan): It is included.
(l) Version #2 (Rav Papa): Both agree, food stuck between the
teeth is not included;
1. They argue about food stuck in the palate - R.
Yochanan includes it, for his throat tasted the
2. Reish Lakish excludes it, for his stomach did not
(a) (R. Asi, citing R. Yochanan): If one ate half a k'Zayis
of forbidden food (Rashi - Ever Min ha'Chai),
regurgitated it, and ate a different half k'Zayis, he is
1. This is because he had the pleasure of swallowing a
k'Zayis (in all.)
(b) Question (R. Elazar, of R. Asi): If he ate half a k'Zayis
of forbidden food, regurgitated it, and ate it again,
what is the law?
1. Question: What was R. Elazar unsure about?
(c) R. Asi did not respond.
i. If he was unsure whether regurgitated food is
considered digested (and is no longer
forbidden), he should have asked about eating a
k'Zayis of regurgitated food!
2. Answer: R. Elazar had no doubt; R. Asi had forgotten
his learning, R. Elazar was helping him to remember.
ii. If he was unsure whether the criterion is
pleasure of swallowing or benefit of the
stomach, he should have known this from R.
Asi's law (above)!
i. He asked, why do you discuss eating a different
half k'Zayis - you should teach about eating
the same half k'Zayis again, to teach two laws!
ii. We would hear that regurgitated food is not
considered digested, and that the criterion is
pleasure of swallowing.
(d) R. Elazar: Chacham of the generation! You yourself said
in front of R. Yochanan, he enjoyed swallowing a k'Zayis
(and he is liable for this.)