REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Bava Kama 76
(a) We learned in our Mishnah 'Ganav ve'Hikdish ve'Achar-Kach Tavach
u'Machar ... Eino Meshalem Tashlumei Daled ve'Hey'.
What problem do we
have with this statement?
(b) Initially, we answer this Kashya by establishing the Mishnah like Rebbi
Shimon, who holds that Kodshim for which one is responsible, remain one's
own (even though he is Shechting Hekdesh).
Is the Tana speaking before
Yi'ush or after Yi'ush? How did Hekdesh acquire the animal?
(c) What procedure did the Ganav follow in making the stolen animal Hekdesh,
according to Rebbi Shimon?
(a) According to the current suggestion, seeing as the animal is still
considered the owner's, why is the Ganav not Chayav Daled ve'Hey when he
(b) How does the Seifa force us to retract from the suggestion that the
author must be Rebbi Shimon?
(c) So we establish our Mishnah like Rebbi Yossi Hagelili.
What does Rebbi
Yossi Hagelilli say?
(a) Seeing as the animal still remains the owner's (according to Rebbi Yossi
Hegelili), why is the Ganav not Chayav for Shechting it?
(b) Why can the reason not be because Rebbi Yossi Hagelili concedes that,
after the Shechitah, the animal becomes the property of Hekdesh, as we
learned in the first Perek (regarding 'ha'Mekadesh be'Chelko')?
(c) We refute this suggestion too, due to the Seifa, which states 'Ganav
ve'Tavach, ve'Achar'Kach Hikdish, Meshalem Tashlumei Daled ve'Hey'.
does that negate the current explanation?
(d) So how do we finally establish our Mishnah? Why is the Ganav not Chayav
Daled ve'Hey for 'selling' the animal to Hekdesh?
(a) We initially think that when Rebbi Shimon differentiated between Kodshim
sh'Chayav be'Achariyusan and Kodshim she'Eino Chayav be'Achariyusan, he was
referring to the Ganav selling the stolen animal.
What will he then hold
with regard to the Shechitah? Will it obligate the Ganav or not?
(b) In which point does Rebbi Shimon then argue with the Tana Kama?
(c) What is the problem with this explanation?
(a) We conclude that Rebbi Shimon refers to a statement of the Tana Kama
that is not specifically mentioned in our Mishnah. In the first Mishnah in
the Perek, what did we extrapolate from the Pasuk "ve'Gunav me'Beis ha'Ish"?
(b) The Tana Kama of our Mishnah now extends this D'rashah to someone who
steals an animal from a Ganav and Shechts or sells it.
What does he say
about someone who steals a Hekdesh animal from the owner?
(c) How do we now explain Rebbi Shimon in light of this D'rashah? What is
(d) What will Rebbi Shimon then rule in a case where the Ganav declares the
animal that he stole, Hekdesh?
(a) What does Rebbi Shimon hold with regard to Shechitah she'Einah Re'uyah?
(b) How does this create a probem with our curent interpretation of Rebbi
(a) When Rav Dimi arrived from Eretz Yisrael, he quoted Rebbi Yochanan, who
answered this Kashya by establishing Rebbi Shimon when the Ganav Shechted
the stolen Kodshim inside the Azarah in the name of the owner.
Answers to questions
problem do we initially have with it?
(b) How does Rebbi Yitzchak bar Avin resolve this problem?
(c) When Ravin arrived from Eretz Yisrael, he quoted Rebbi Yochanan
What did he gain by establishing the case when the Ganav
Shechted the animal in the Azarah but not in the owner's name?
(d) Why is the Shechitah then Kasher?
The third and final explanation is given by Resh Lakish. According to him,
Rebbi Shimon is speaking about a Kodshim animal with a blemish.
the Ganav then Shecht it?
(a) Rebbi Elazar queries both Rebbi Yochanan and Resh Lakish.
'Tehi Bah Rebbi Elazar' mean?
(b) The gist of his query is that it is not the Shechitah that validates
either a Kasher Korban or a blemished one (in which case, how will they
justify referring to the Shechitah as a Shechitah Re'uyah?).
does validate ...
(c) We answer that Rebbi Elazar seems to have forgotten Rebbi Shimon's own
- ... a Kasher Korban?
- ... a blemished one?
What does Rebbi Shimon say about 'Kol ha'Omed ... ' in both of
the above cases?
(d) Which category of blemished Korban are we referring to? Which kind of
blemished Korban is not subject to redemption, according to Rebbi Shimon?
(a) According to Rebbi Shimon in a Beraisa, Nosar is Metamei Tum'as Ochlin,
provided it was left overnight after the Zerikas ha'Dam, but not otherwise.
Answers to questions
What category of Korban is affected by Rebbi Shimon's ruling?
(b) How do we traditionally interpret 'after the Zerikas ha'Dam'?
(c) What does this prove?