REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Bava Kama 67
BAVA KAMA 67 - Dedicated by Mr. and Mrs. D. Kornfeld (Yerushalayim) in honor
of the Bat Mitzvah of their granddaughter, Malkie, this past Yom Kipur. "May
you Hashem bless you as Sarah, Rivkah, Rachel and Le'ah!"
(a) What distinction does the Tana of the Beraisa draw between a half-pipe
that was first carved and then fitted to a Mikveh and one that was first
fitted and then carved?
(b) How does this pose a Kashya on Rav Yosef, who holds that Shinuy ha'Shem
(c) How do we resolve this problem? What makes the case of Mayim She'uvim
(drawn water) different?
(d) Then why is the Mikveh Pasul in the Reisha (in the case where the pipe
was carved first and fitted afterwards).
(a) The Beraisa discusses a Ganav, a Gazlan or an Anas with regard to
Hekdesh, Terumah and Ma'asros of the crops that they stole.
What is an
(b) What does the Tana say about them?
(c) Do we have a proof from here that Yi'ush is Koneh?
(a) Rav Chisda Amar Rebbi Yonasan learns from the Pasuk "Asher Gazal" that
Shinuy is Koneh, like Rabah on the previous Amud. We query this however, on
the grounds that this Pasuk is needed for a different D'rashah (connected
with a Chomesh).
(b) How do we answer this Kashya? What else could the Torah have written
instead of "Asher Gazal"?
(c) What does the second Lashon learn from "ve'Heishiv es ha'Gezeilah"?
(d) Then what does he learn from "Asher Gazal"?
(a) What does Ula learn from the Pasuk in Mal'achi "ve'Heivesem Gazul es
ha'Pise'ach ve'es ha'Choleh"? In which regard does the Navi compare "Gazul"
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(b) Rava learns that Yi'ush is not Koneh from the Pasuk "Korbano" (like
Abaye on the previous Daf).
How does he know that the Pasuk is not
speaking before Yi'ush?
(c) Initially, we resolve the apparent contradiction between this statement
of Rava, and that what he said earlier (that the Pasuk speaks when he stole
his friend's Korban) by explaining that Rava retracted from what he said
What is the alternative answer?
(d) Why might we have confused Rava and Rav Papa's statements?
(a) We learned in our Mishnah that Midas Arba'ah va'Chamishah is confined to
an ox and sheep.
What do we mean when we ask 'Let us learn "Shor" "Shor"
(b) Rava answers that "Shor and "Seh" are superfluous (enabling us to
preclude all other animals).
Why can he not be referring to the "Shor" and
"Seh" of the Seifa? What might we have thought had the Torah concluded
"Chamishah Bakar Yeshalem Tachtav, ve'Arba Tzon Tachtav"?
(c) Why can we not counter this with the argument that this is why the Torah
writes twice "Tachtav", to preclude from this suggestion?
(a) So we switch to "Shor va'Seh" of the Reisha. Perhaps they are
What do we initially think the Torah would have meant had it
written "Ki Yignov Ish u'Tevacho O Mecharo", Chamishah Bakar Yeshalem ... "?
(b) We reject this suggestion however, on the grounds that the Torah writes
"u'Tevacho O Mecharo" (in the singular).
What do we then suggest that we
might learn from this Pasuk (making it necessary to write "Shor O Seh")?
(c) Then what did Rava mean when he said that we preclude all animals from
the extra "Shor" and "Seh"?
(a) Our Mishnah exempts someone who steals from a Ganav from paying Kefel.
How does Rav qualify this Halachah? Under which circumstances will the
second Ganav be obligated to pay Kefel to the first one, according to him?
Nevertheless, we conclude, according to Rav, Rebbi Akiva speaks when there
was no Yi'ush.
(b) Based on Rebbi Akiva in a Beraisa, Rav Sheishes objected to Rav's
Chidush in no uncertain terms.
To what logic does Rebbi Akiva attribute
the Din of four or five times?
(c) What caused Rav Sheishes to believe that Rebbi Akiva must be speaking
(d) Why is this a Kashya on Rav?
Then what does he mean when he says 'Mipnei she'Nishtaresh
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