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1) ARE DITCHES AND ROCKS CONSIDERED PART OF A FIELD? (cont.)
(a) Question: (When they are 10, granted they are judged
separately from the field, but still) they should be
redeemed according to the fixed price!
1. Suggestion: The fixed redemption price does not
apply to fields less than a Beis Kor.
(b) Answer (Rav Ukva bar Chama): The case is, the ditches are
full of water, they cannot be sown (therefore they are
not redeemed like fields).
2. Rejection (Beraisa): One might have thought, "Zera
Chomer Se'orim" is the smallest quantity redeemed
according to the fixed price - "V'Im Ga'ol Yig'al Es
*ha'Sadeh*" teaches that a field of any size is
redeemed according to the fixed price.
1. Support: They are mentioned along with rocks, which
implies that they are like rocks which cannot be
(c) Question: If so, even if they are less than 10 Tefachim
they should not be like the field!
(d) Answer: Those are like cracks of the field, small rocks
are like mounds of the field, they are not considered by
(e) Question: Are the ditches in our Mishnah full of water?
(f) Answer (Rav Papa): Even if they are not full of water
(they are not included).
(g) Question: What is the reason?
(h) Answer: A person does not pay money for (one place that
looks like) two or three places.
(i) Question (Ravina): They are mentioned along with rocks,
which cannot be sown, presumably the ditches are similar!
(j) Answer: The resemblance to rocks refers to when they are
less than 10 Tefachim, that they are like part of the
(k) (R. Yitzchak): The small rocks (and ditches) are
considered like the field when they are at most four
Kavim (of the Beis Kor; more than this, the buyer does
not accept them).
(l) (Rav Ukva bar Chama): They are like the field only if
they are spread out over at least five Kavim, if not,
they are not included.
(m) (R. Chiya bar Aba citing R. Yochanan): They are like the
field only if they are spread out over the majority of
(n) Question (R. Chiya bar Aba): What if most of the four
Kavim are spread out over the minority (of this majority
of the field), and the minority of the four Kavim are
spread out over the majority of this majority (do we say,
they are too concentrated in one area, or not)?
(o) This question is not resolved.
(p) Question (R. Yirmeyah): What if they are spread out over
the proper area, but they are arranged in a circle
(making it hard to sow between them), or in a row, or
like an ox's horns, or in a zigzag (Each shape is harder
to sow than the previous)?
2) ROCKS THAT ARE EXCLUDED
(q) These questions are not resolved.
(a) Version #1 - Rashbam (Beraisa): One rock of any size
outside the field is not included;
3) TOO MUCH OR TOO LITTLE LAND
(b) Version #2 - Tosfos - (Beraisa): A rock that has a name,
of any size (alternatively - a rock that is a Beis Rova
(quarter Kav)) is not included. (End of Version #2);
(c) A rock on the border is not included (it must be inside
(d) Question (Rav Papa): What if a small amount of earth is
between the rock and the border?
(e) This question is not resolved.
(f) Question (Rav Ashi): (If we consider the rock to be in
the field when some earth separates it from the border),
what if the earth (between it and the border) is under a
rock, or has a rock under it?
(g) These questions are not resolved.
(a) (Mishnah): Reuven told Shimon 'I sell to you a Beis Kor,
measured by a rope' - if it is any amount less, Shimon
deducts from the price; if it is any amount more, Shimon
returns the extra (land or money).
(b) If he said 'be it less or more', even if there is a Rova
too little or much per Se'ah, there is no compensation.
1. If the error is more than this, (everything) must be
(c) When Shimon must return, he returns money; if he wants,
he returns land.
1. We say that he returns money to help Reuven - if the
extra is Beis nine Kavim in a field (which is
worthwhile, it is considered a field), or half a Kav
in a garden, or according to R. Akiva a Beis Rova,
Reuven will (presumably) ask for land.
(d) He does not just return the Rova, he returns all the