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Previous daf Avodah Zarah 11
AVODAH ZARAH 11 - dedicated by Reb Gedalya Weinberger of Brooklyn, N.Y. in
memory of his father, Reb Chaim Tzvi ben Reb Shlomo Weinberger. Reb Chaim
Tzvi, who miraculously survived the holocaust, raised his children with an
intense dedication to the Torah and Gedolei Torah.
(a) Onkelus bar Kelonimus converted; the Caeser sent troops
to return him. He expounded verses and persuaded them to
2) BURNING THE KING'S VESSELS
1. Caeser sent more troops; he instructed them not to
talk to Onkelus. As they were taking him, he said 'I
will just say one thing: a deputy holds a lamp for
an official, an official holds for a mayor, a mayor
for a governor, a governor for a king. Does the king
hold for anyone?
(b) (Rav Yehudah): "Shnei Goyim b'Vitnech" - this is written
"Geiyim" (exalted ones), alluding to Antoninus and Rebbi
(who descend from Esav and Yakov), lettuce, gourds and
radishes were always on their tables, in all seasons.
2. The troops: No.
3. Onkelus: Hash-m held a lamp for Yisrael - "Va'Sh-m
Holech...b'Amud Esh Leha'ir Lahem".
4. The troops all converted.
5. Caeser sent more troops; he instructed them not to
talk to Onkelus at all. As they were taking him, he
saw a Mezuzah; he put his hand on it and asked them
what it is.
6. The troops: You tell us.
7. Onkelus: A mortal king sits inside, his servants
guard him from outside; Hash-m's servants are
inside, and He guards them from the outside -
"Hash-m Yishmor Tzeisecha u'Vo'echa".
8. The troops converted; Caeser did not send more
1. Radishes cut the food (in the stomach, to aid
digestion), lettuce turns the food over, gourds
expand the intestines (to help people eat more).
(c) Question: But Tana d'vei R. Yishmael taught, "Kishu'in"
(gourds) are Kashe (harsh) to the body like a sword!
(d) Answer: Small gourds are helpful, large gourds are
(a) (Mishnah): The day (the king) was born, the day (the
king's father) died...
(b) Inference: R. Meir does not distinguish whether or not
they burned (the king's father's vessels when he died),
he always forbids the day;
1. He must say that burning is not a Nochri statute;
(c) Question (Beraisa): We burn after a king dies, this is
not forbidden on account of 'ways of the Emori
2. Chachamim must say that it is a Nochri statute!
1. If it is a Nochri statute, this should be forbidden
- "Uv'Chukoseihem Lo Selechu"!
(d) Answer: Rather, all agree that it is not a Nochri
statute, rather it shows honor to the king;
1. R. Meir holds that they serve idolatry whether or
not they burned, Chachamim hold that they serve
idolatry only if they burned, for then the death is
meaningful to them.
(e) (Beraisa): We burn after a king dies, this is not
forbidden on account of 'ways of the Emori' -
"Uv'Misrefos Avosecha ha'Melachim...";
1. Just as we burn for a king, also for a Nasi.
(f) Question: Is it really true that we do not destroy
2. We burn his bed and the vessels he used.
3. When R. Gamliel died, Onkelus burned 70 Manos of
(silver coins of) Tzur.
4. Question: But we said that we (only) burn his bed
and the vessels he used!
5. Correction: Rather, he burned vessels *worth* 70
1. (Beraisa): We Oker (cut animals' legs) when the king
dies, this is not forbidden on account of 'ways of
(g) Answer (Rav Papa): That refers to the horse he rode on
(it is like a vessel he used).
(h) Question: But we also do this for Tahor animals (which
people do not ride on)!
1. (Beraisa): *Ikur* which makes an animal Treifah is
forbidden, if it does not make it Treifah, it is
permitted. (Rashi - we only distinguish making it
Treifah regarding Kosher animals; Tosfos - the
Beraisa says when the animal is permitted to eat).
2. Ikur does not make an animal Treifah if done below
(i) Answer (Rav Papa): That refers to a calf used to pull a
3) OTHER FESTIVALS
(a) (Mishnah): The day he shaves his beard...
4) OUTSIDE A CITY CELEBRATING A FESTIVAL
(b) Question: What does the Mishnah mean: the day he shaves
his beard and (Rashi - the day he) cuts his hair but
leaves his Beloris, or the day he shaves his beard and
(Rashi - the day he) cuts his Beloris?
(c) Answer: Both are forbidden.
1. Version #1 - Rashi - (Beraisa #1): The day he shaves
his beard and the day he leaves his Beloris.
(d) (Rav Yehudah): Romi has another festival: once in 70
years, they put a healthy man (to represent Esav) on top
of a lame man (Yakov); 'Esav' wears the clothes of Adam
ha'Rishon, has the skin of R. Yishmael over his face, and
the weight of a Zuz of Paz (a very rare type of gold)
hanging from his neck;
2. (Beraisa #2): The day he shaves his beard and the
day he cuts his Beloris.
3. Version #2 - Tosfos - Beraisa: The day he shaves his
beard and leaves his Beloris, and the day he shaves
his beard and cuts his Beloris.
1. They cover the market with carbuncle, and announce
in front of him: the prediction (of the redemption
of Yisrael) of the master (Rashi - Yakov; Tosfos -
Yitzchak) is false; the brother (Yakov) of our
master (is) a swindler; one who missed seeing this
will not see it (he is not likely to live another 70
years); the swindler did not gain by his swindle
(taking the blessings); woe to this one (Esav), when
this one (Yakov) will rise.
(e) Question: Why did the Mishnah omit this festival?
2. (Rav Ashi): They inadvertently said the truth!
i. They meant to say, a swindler is the brother of
our master; the way they said implies, the
brother of our master, the swindler.
(f) Answer: It only lists festivals that occur every year.
(g) Question: These are the festivals of Romi; what are the
festivals of Peras?
(h) Answer: Mutradi, Turski, Muharanki, and Moharin.
1. The festivals of Bavel are Muharanki, Aknisei,
Bechanuni, and the 10th of Adar.
(i) (R. Chanan bar Rav Chisda): There are five fixed idolatry
houses: Beis Bel in Bavel, Beis Nevo in Kursi, Tarasa in
Mefeg, Tzerifa in Ashkelon, and Nashra in Arabia.
(j) (Rav Dimi): Also Yarid in Ein Bechi and Nidvacha (some
say Nisrava) in Ako.
(k) Question (R. Chanan bar Rav Chisda): What is the
significance of saying that they are fixed?
(l) Answer (Rav Chisda): People sacrifice to them every day
of the year.
(m) (Shmuel): In Chutz la'Aretz, only the day of the festival
is forbidden (not three days before it).
(n) Question: Even the day of the festival is permitted!
1. On the merchants' festival, Rav Yehudah allowed Rav
Berona to sell wine and Rav Gidal to sell wheat.
(o) Answer: The merchants' festival is different, for it is
not a fixed annual festival.
(a) (Mishnah): When a city celebrates a festival, it is
permitted to do business outside the city;
1. When the outskirts celebrate a festival, it is
permitted to do business with the city.
(b) It is permitted to travel to the city only if the road
also leads to another city (if not, people will suspect
that he is going to sacrifice with them).
(c) (Gemara) Version #1 - Question: What is considered
outside the city?
(d) Answer (Reish Lakish): Even the market of Azah is
considered outside Azah (even though it is very close).